The Prevalence of Duckbill and Popularity of Cinnamon

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Originally Posted by Crazygecko

How about multi gene supers? I have only one black pastel in my collection and its a super black with either spider or pastel or both mixed in with her and she has no kinking or duck billing at all.
Any chance of extra genes thrown in to the mix reducing the chance of kings and duck bills?

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How do you figure it has pastel, spider, or both?

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Originally Posted by Kodieh

How do you figure it has pastel, spider, or both?

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Well as you can see she is way way lighter then your typical Super Black pastel. Parents were black pastel x black pastel spider pastel. She also has a nice little paradoxish spot on her.

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d03deb2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Crazygecko

Well as you can see she is way way lighter then your typical Super Black pastel. Parents were black pastel x black pastel spider pastel. She also has a nice little paradoxish spot on her.

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d03deb2.jpg

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Well, then it would be safer to say "super black pastel from a BP x BP bee". If you haven't proved out the other things, it's not good form to throw out possibles like that.

I guess you could Schroeders cat it, but that's not a good idea.

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I am sure its ok to throw out the possibilities when I am the one keeping it and going to try and prove her out. I didn't say 100 percent sure I and a couple breeders that aren't small time agree there is more then just super black pastel in her. But hey if you want to say black pastel x black pastel bee that's cool. I prefer to just say all the genes that were in the mix.
But hey thanks for the heads up.

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Originally Posted by Crazygecko

I am sure its ok to throw out the possibilities when I am the one keeping it and going to try and prove her out. I didn't say 100 percent sure I and a couple breeders that aren't small time agree there is more then just super black pastel in her. But hey if you want to say black pastel x black pastel bee that's cool. I prefer to just say all the genes that were in the mix.
But hey thanks for the heads up.

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Does it wobble?


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Originally Posted by Crazygecko

Well as you can see she is way way lighter then your typical Super Black pastel. Parents were black pastel x black pastel spider pastel. She also has a nice little paradoxish spot on her.

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d03deb2.jpg

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i would say its at least super black pastel + pastel. given the pairing, what else could it be, its not dark enough to be a super black pastel. super black pastels dont just randomly happen to have such a color. dont allow the others to confuse you, with that pairing and these optics, its at least a silver bullet. i dont know if it has spider as well, my guess would be: no.

i like how this one has a perfectly normal head shape, no duckbill at all.