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  • 01-07-2014, 12:20 AM
    Raven01
    Re: Opinions on PVC
    Cornel's I am pretty sure is run out of Alberta. So, hold ups at customs/exchange rates etc are a non-issue.
  • 01-07-2014, 04:16 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Re: Opinions on PVC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NH93 View Post
    Thank you. Where is Cornel's World located?

    (Where he sits under the heat bulb is around 85F actually. There's not much I can do to warm up his "warm" side any further without cooking him... it's only a 15gal aquarium - with 50W red bulb. He does have a UTH, like I said, set at 90F but prefers not to use it!)

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, that I measure the temps near the floor of the vive where he sits (78.5-81F), but he can climb closer to the mesh lid where the heat bulb sits outside, which is where the 85F comes from.

    Greg is in Calgary, Alberta.

    He's built my custom Bp cage and I use both an RHP and UTH (run by a herpstat 2).

    I havent had any issues with my rhp, but it keeps my temperatures perfect!
  • 01-07-2014, 09:09 AM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Opinions on PVC
    Radient heat panels use radient heat as the name implies. This means that they actually heat the enclosure by warming things directly under them, ie the substrate, bottom of the cage, perches or if it's laying under the RHP, the snake it's self. They are a great and very safe heat source, but IMO are not as effective for heating terrestrial species like balls as a uth would be. I personally use a strip of 12" heat tape under the cage to heat my own boids. If you are going to use a devided cage to house both a bp and a corn you may actually find that just using heat on the bp's side may provide enough ambient heat in the corns side depending on the ambient room temps.

    On a side not I would strongly caution you to avoid taking husbandry advice from a cage manufacturer that doesn't actually have any experience keeping reptiles. Regardless of who you decide to buy from please feel free to pm or email me with any questions you have regarding setup. I have over 20 years of experience keeping many different species including both of the ones in question for you. I'd be happy to help. After all the reason I started HerpHouses.com in the first place was because I was tired of keepers in Ontario not haveing a knowledgeable and professional source for reptile houseing.
  • 01-07-2014, 11:44 AM
    NH93
    Thank you!

    Like I said, I'm not worried about buying the products - I seem to be able to find them okay. I'm not sure who you mean specifically, but where I am getting my cages from, the distributor does have snakes and uses the PVC cages as well. He is happy to show me how to set it up and suggest where to drill holes for extra wires (ie. for LED lights or that sort of thing) so I am not worried.

    My worry is that I will set up my tanks, and they won't be what I need. As in, the ball python will be too cold and the corn will be too warm.

    My idea right now is to have them in my spare room or my kitchen (ambient temp for both hovers at 75F), and have a larger heat mat for the ball python, covering about 1/3 of the tank bottom, and a smaller one for the corn. However, I think I will put the corn's UTH on the side closest to the ball python (so almost in the middle basically) so that if any heat escapes into the ball python's vive it will only warm it up. If any heat escapes into the corns vive from the other, it will already be near the "warm side". I will definitely have to fiddle around a bit before actually putting the snakes in to make sure nothing drops or skyrockets substantially.

    I really appreciate all of the suggestions everyone is giving. Thank you all.
  • 01-07-2014, 12:29 PM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Opinions on PVC
    What your describing sounds like it should work fine. I'd just set up the cage and let it run for a day or 2 to make sure that it's holding at where you want it on both sides. Regardless of any heat bleeding between the 2 sides the thermostats should adjust your heat mats to compensate any way.
  • 01-07-2014, 05:25 PM
    NH93
    Thanks Jason!

    It's going to be tricky, as I've only got one thermostat for each snake... therefore, I'll have to move the snakes into the new tanks on the same day I set them up (only having two I don't have a tonne of extra things lying around to keep them cozy during the process).

    Are there any specific LED lights or other accessories you think would make it look awesome (and obviously be safe for the snakes)?
    Also, any ideas where to get a stand for the PVC cage? I'm having trouble coming up with something that will look nice and go with the PVC, without breaking the bank. I have looked at hardware stores but the shelving there wouldn't look too friendly in my kitchen :P
  • 01-07-2014, 05:36 PM
    jclaiborne
    Re: Opinions on PVC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NH93 View Post
    Thanks Jason!

    It's going to be tricky, as I've only got one thermostat for each snake... therefore, I'll have to move the snakes into the new tanks on the same day I set them up (only having two I don't have a tonne of extra things lying around to keep them cozy during the process).

    Are there any specific LED lights or other accessories you think would make it look awesome (and obviously be safe for the snakes)?
    Also, any ideas where to get a stand for the PVC cage? I'm having trouble coming up with something that will look nice and go with the PVC, without breaking the bank. I have looked at hardware stores but the shelving there wouldn't look too friendly in my kitchen :P


    I don't know if this will be any help since I am in the US, but I use this little 13in LED bar for my corn snake enclosure which is PVC 3x2x2 feet and it lights it up perfectly, and it isn't super bright white lighting, it actually gives off a nice soft light in the cage

    http://www.lowes.com/pd_406106-57299...Info=Utilitech
  • 01-07-2014, 05:55 PM
    NH93
    How much did that set you back?
  • 01-07-2014, 05:56 PM
    jclaiborne
    Re: Opinions on PVC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NH93 View Post
    How much did that set you back?

    Sorry are you asking about the LED strip?
  • 01-07-2014, 05:59 PM
    NH93
    Yes, sorry!
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