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Why is this a bad idea?

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  • 12-21-2013, 05:47 AM
    Drift
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    If you decide to go with a humidifier, I would recommend a warm-mist humidifier. I've been using a Honeywell Quicksteam for... what, 3 - 4 years now, maybe 5? (how old am I again?)

    The humidity controller isn't perfect, but it never is. I've also found it about as simple as I could ask for in terms of cleaning the thing and refilling it without any drips. Mind you, I use it only during the winters.

    I'm sure there's other good ones that other people will recommend, but just giving my 2 cents.

    The cool-mist ones are a nuisance and bacteria can become an issue...

    That aside, depending how bad the humidity really is I'd think switching substrates and turning off the space heater might solve some things (I mean really, low 70's is "wear longer sleeves and pants" weather at worst, you can tough it out ;)).
  • 12-21-2013, 10:02 AM
    patientz3ro
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
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    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    I discovered today that foggers do that yes :(, so I will be trying the humidifier next.

    If you were thinking of switching from a fogger to an ultrasonic humidifier, I can save you the trouble. They're the exact same thing.

    Almost all humidifiers will produce fog to some degree. The only exceptions I know of are evaporative (wick) and pass-thru (bubble) humidifiers. Wick humidifiers basically use a wick to draw water from a reservoir, then a fan blows air across the wick, picking up moisture as it goes. Heated wicks are better than non heated, but they're not exactly falling off of the trees. Bubble humidifiers pass water through a column of water, and the air picks up moisture as it goes.

    Neither of those is going to generate the kind of humidity you can get with a fogger. That's why I use one. Mine is controlled by a hygrostat, but if you're saturating your substrate, turn the fogger all the way down and aim the outlet at a hide or something. That should diffuse the fog enough to stop soaking things.

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  • 12-21-2013, 03:52 PM
    Badgemash
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    If you were thinking of switching from a fogger to an ultrasonic humidifier, I can save you the trouble. They're the exact same thing.

    I happened to have one of those little zoo med repti fogger things sitting around, so that's what I meant by fogger. I'm going to go pick up one that's actually designed for humidifying a room today, and I'm going to print out your break down of how the types work and take it with me, thank you!
  • 12-22-2013, 12:36 AM
    olstyn
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    ETA: actual cleaning always takes place on the dining room table, never the actual snake room. They were just put back in their cases after and then stored in the closet in that room.

    Maybe I'm overcautious, but I do my gun cleaning out in the garage. Between the solvents and what's being cleaned off of/out of the guns, I don't want that process happening where I eat. (Even if you shoot only jacketed/plated rounds, there *is* lead involved because the active ingredient in most modern priming compound is lead styphnate, and burning it gets residue all over the gun, especially in the barrel and action.)
  • 12-22-2013, 10:37 AM
    patientz3ro
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olstyn View Post
    Maybe I'm overcautious, but I do my gun cleaning out in the garage. Between the solvents and what's being cleaned off of/out of the guns, I don't want that process happening where I eat. (Even if you shoot only jacketed/plated rounds, there *is* lead involved because the active ingredient in most modern priming compound is lead styphnate, and burning it gets residue all over the gun, especially in the barrel and action.)

    Not that there's anything wrong with being extra careful, but you'd have to clean a LOT of really dirty guns for that amount of lead to become an issue.

    Personally, I like to wait until someone comes to the door trying to sell me something, then I sit on the couch with my snake around my neck and start stripping my gun and talking to myself. Oddly enough, they always seem to remember a previous appointment they forgot about.

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  • 12-22-2013, 12:27 PM
    Xtina
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    Personally, I like to wait until someone comes to the door trying to sell me something, then I sit on the couch with my snake around my neck and start stripping my gun and talking to myself. Oddly enough, they always seem to remember a previous appointment they forgot about.

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    Hahaha! Love this.


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  • 12-22-2013, 02:35 PM
    Badgemash
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olstyn View Post
    Maybe I'm overcautious, but I do my gun cleaning out in the garage. Between the solvents and what's being cleaned off of/out of the guns, I don't want that process happening where I eat. (Even if you shoot only jacketed/plated rounds, there *is* lead involved because the active ingredient in most modern priming compound is lead styphnate, and burning it gets residue all over the gun, especially in the barrel and action.)

    I'm kind of embarrased right now, our dining table is lucky if it gets used for dining once a year :oops:. It typically gets used as the place I dump stuff when I walk in the door, and as a resting place for (the large number of) things I haven't gotten around to putting away. But I don't think you're being overcautious, I was reading a study that came out recently about lead and brain function, and the new findings suggest that the current EPA "safe" levels are actually far too high. So I think anything we can do to reduce exposure is a good idea.
  • 12-22-2013, 02:43 PM
    patientz3ro
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    I'm kind of embarrased right now, our dining table is lucky if it gets used for dining once a year :oops:. It typically gets used as the place I dump stuff when I walk in the door, and as a resting place for (the large number of) things I haven't gotten around to putting away. But I don't think you're being overcautious, I was reading a study that came out recently about lead and brain function, and the new findings suggest that the current EPA "safe" levels are actually far too high. So I think anything we can do to reduce exposure is a good idea.

    Well, when you put it in light of lead and brain function...

    I would submit for your consideration that most people don't use their brain enough for lead to have an impact, no matter what concentration they're exposed to!

    Present company excepted, of course...

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  • 12-22-2013, 03:22 PM
    Raven01
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Just a tip too late for your hubby Badgemash.
    Hit up any welder friends for the reusable useable desiccant packs from 25Lb or larger MIG spools. Toss a couple of those in a gun cabinet and moisture is never an issue again barring a flood. Pulls the moisture right out of the air especially in a confined space like a cabinet.
  • 12-22-2013, 03:28 PM
    patientz3ro
    Re: Why is this a bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
    Just a tip too late for your hubby Badgemash.
    Hit up any welder friends for the reusable useable desiccant packs from 25Lb or larger MIG spools. Toss a couple of those in a gun cabinet and moisture is never an issue again barring a flood. Pulls the moisture right out of the air especially in a confined space like a cabinet.

    Not sure how difficult it is to get your hands on, but it's also available in bulk. Changes color as it absorbs moisture, and you just have to microwave it to reactivate. If you happen to know any aircraft electricians or avionics techs in the military or defense contractors, they should be able to "acquire" some for you...


    Not that I'm advocating the misappropriation of government property or anything.

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