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  • 10-20-2013, 03:10 AM
    sho220
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bowlshot View Post
    Does anybody have a picture of a butter and a lesser side by side if would love yo see if there's any difference in them


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    Personally I think they're the same thing, just lots of variation. I bought the pair below several years ago as a Lesser male and Butter female. I've produced babies from each and there's just too much variation to say one way or the other.

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4513.jpg

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4422.jpg

    Lesser

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0/lesserm2.jpg

    Butter

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0/butterf2.jpg

    Lesser

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3..._1450FLSSR.jpg

    Butter

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3..._1448FBTTR.jpg


    Butterbee and Lesserbee

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4367.jpg
  • 10-20-2013, 04:27 AM
    BigJayPiercer
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    I think all of your pics just reinforce that they are different yet allellic morphs. I could tell the Butter apart from the Lesser in all of those pictures

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  • 10-20-2013, 04:38 AM
    zeion97
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Personally I think they're the same thing, just lots of variation. I bought the pair below several years ago as a Lesser male and Butter female. I've produced babies from each and there's just too much variation to say one way or the other.

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4513.jpg

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4422.jpg

    Lesser

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0/lesserm2.jpg

    Butter

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...0/butterf2.jpg

    Lesser

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3..._1450FLSSR.jpg

    Butter

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3..._1448FBTTR.jpg


    Butterbee and Lesserbee

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...s/IMG_4367.jpg

    These pictures reinforced the fact that though both the butter and lesser share "common" traits when you combine other morphs the results are clearly different, IMO I like regular lessers, but butters when they're with other morphs. :P

    Very good pics also!
  • 10-20-2013, 08:14 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigJayPiercer View Post
    I think all of your pics just reinforce that they are different yet allellic morphs. I could tell the Butter apart from the Lesser in all of those pictures

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    If you took 2 different normals side by side, I think you could tell them apart also. There are plenty of cases of butters looking like lessers and lessers looking like butters. Every year as they keep getting outcrossed this becomes more true. I mean how obvious was the butter/lesser in this thread: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...er+lesser+vote

    I doubt robin will have a problem with me re-posting her picture from that thread, but her animals are even a better example than mine:
    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...serFemale4.jpg
  • 10-20-2013, 12:44 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post

    I doubt robin will have a problem with me re-posting her picture from that thread, but her animals are even a better example than mine:
    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...serFemale4.jpg

    Perfect example of natural variation in two lessers.



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  • 10-20-2013, 02:02 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MisterKyte View Post
    Weren't they even called "White smokes" at one time or another? I think I saw one labled as that on VPI.

    Never heard that one myself. Though ive only recently moved into BP morphs. The onky reason i knew about the CG/banana bit was because a more expierenced friend stopped me from completeing a sentance so i wouldnt look like a complete.idiot infront of his high end vet breeder buddies LOL
  • 10-20-2013, 02:05 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1 View Post
    I thought coral glow was the opposite sex to banana...

    Nope they are both male makers. Two competing breeders had the originals, when the realised it was a dom/ codom they decided to unveil it and name them. One picked coral glow one picked banana. Though i think if they were line bred for long enough, they could become seperate mutation that share lineage. Similar to albino and lavender albino and some of the others.
  • 10-20-2013, 02:18 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    Coral glow and banana have female makers too.

    And roughly 10% or less of male makers make female cg\banana and vice versa with female makers producing males.

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  • 10-20-2013, 02:21 PM
    DooLittle
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
    As has already been said, they are the same. Same morph, just two different lines. And both butter and lesser can have variations in appearance. As far as identifying one from the other, you would have to the take breeders word for which line they have.
  • 10-20-2013, 02:45 PM
    grcforce327
    Re: Identifying Butters and Lessers
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