Re: Double recessive projects?
Breed any offspring to a double visual would be the best bet... Example... Axanthic 66% poss het pied bred to a lightening pied gets you at bare minimum axanthics 100% het pied. That would further the production of the lightening pieds and down the road out crossing would be a really good idea too.
Re: Double recessive projects?
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I know that all of generation 2 are 100% hets, especially because I will have produced them myself. I was talking about proving out the third generation... and Pythonfriend answered my question perfectly. I would take the Axanthic 66% het pied to Pied 66% Axanthic. Worst case scenario is I end up with another clutch of 100% DH.
What would I do with the non-visual offspring from clutch 3? Do I breed them back with the original parents (generation 1) to attempt to prove out the 66%, or just breed them to each other, and see if I hit the odds? I am still trying to wrap my head around the "numbers stuff". It may take re-reading it a few times to understand it all.
thanks, im glad to be helpful :)
i dont think the 66% possible double hets you get from 100% double het to 100% double het are that useful unless they prove out. visual axanthics, visual pieds, and 100% double hets are most useful, and when you make your own 100% double hets and have visuals of both genes, those 66% possible hets will be quite a bit behind. since you need a male 100% double het up and running to even produce these, the male possible double hets will be really useless. the females may be worth holding back, maybe they have codominant extra genes, and if they only prove out for one of the recessives, they may nicely fit into one of your single recessive projects.
BTW there is another breeding that may be useful, for example visual pied to 100% double het axanthic pied. a visual pied 50% possible het axanthic is worth more than a visual pied, so these can also get you closer to your goal. breedings like pied 50% het axanthic to axanthic 100% het pied make sense, you have very good chances to hit pied 100% het axanthics, and if the possible het proves out, also axanthic het pied and lightning pieds. Just dont waste too much time and energy on the stuff that ranks below 2 in the counting system i mentioned.
EDIT: also keep in mind that many het pieds have markers, these het pied markers may be quite useful to pick out the most promising possible het pieds. Visual axanthic to 100% double het axanthic pied may be a very good breeding, if you manage to pick out the axanthic het pieds from the clutch.
