Re: Is there a point to having normal ball pythons? + breeding question
Just to say it outright here. There is no correct answer because to each person there is a different one. To me normals are extremely useful to others they are useless. They say I am wrong and I say they are wrong but in reality neither of us are right or wrong. I have used normal males to make brighter babies to raise up to breed to things like pastel or lesser and I have used other males to make dark babies to breed to the darker morphs. Some would say I "wasted" those females but my end results were awesome at the time so I feel as though I did the right thing. In the end it is up to each person to do what they want to do and what they feel right. Saying someone is wrong on what they want to do when it comes to breeding is pointless and extremely counterproductive unless the outcome is known for a fact to be bad for the offspring and not just a guess based off of no facts what so ever.
Re: Is there a point to having normal ball pythons? + breeding question
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Originally Posted by
Kaorte
Breeding to a normal male might be useful in cases where there is an unproven female morph. The only way to prove it out would be to pair it with a normal. :)
so... they aren't COMPLETELY useless, but I sure won't be keeping any around :P I have enough "useless" single gene males! lol
Or if you have five gene female, pair to a normal male to prove it out.
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Re: Is there a point to having normal ball pythons? + breeding question
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Originally Posted by
Pythonfriend
instead of saying things like "Female normals are very useful but males not so much" or "Normal males have little use in breeding", i would go one step further and say:
never breed normal males because it makes sense to breed genetically more powerful males to genetically less powerful females. i cannot think of a single situation where breeding a normal male makes sense.
if you can get a free normal female, take it. combos like jigsaw, bee, or pewter, can produce more jigsaws, bees, or pewters, when bred to just a normal female.
Like others say, breeding to a normal male can help isolate genes the female carries. Sometimes it's hard to see certain genes in multi gened animals. A breeder can isolate those multi genes into single gene offspring to see what the female genetics are.
Cross Exotics has the supposed "citrus pastel desert" and has bred her to a multi gened animal(s). None of the offspring are single gene deserts, while he has labeled certain multi gened offspring to contain desert. I personally cannot believe that his female is a "citrus pastel desert" without seeing any single gene desert babies. So in this case, breeding her to a normal male will be helpful, which Cross Exotics is doing next season. That way the offspring are only normals, deserts, and citrus pastels. It would be easier to ID a single gene desert than one in a 4 gene combo.
And some normal males are beautiful. Certain ones are great for selectively breeding even superior snakes.
Many 'dinker' projects are males. A clean bright reduced normal male can clean up ugly pastel girls for example.....
Re: Is there a point to having normal ball pythons? + breeding question
Most have already said what I was thinking. Normal bps male or female will always be a necessity especially as time goes on and more genes are added to different morphs. There may not always be a steady supply of normal imports, those doors can decline and or close at anytime. With every one or most people concentrating on morphs that will eventually boost the price as well as demand for normals for the same reasons mentioned before. A lot of inbred or concentrated genetics in morphs that need new blood, or just to isolate certain traits. Males and females can do that, in this case males much sooner than females. If you have a few females ready to breed it only takes one male to do the job can't say the same the other way around.
