Is this normal behavior? also, metallic eyes

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

I think she's got the right coloring for a butter/lesser, and honestly, Butter = Lesser, but that is very much debated in the hobby. She's dark for a butter/lesser, but it could just be your lighting.

Let's put it this way, she's either a dark butter, or a light mojave :P

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Which is exactly why she needs a Mystic male in her future. :) Either you'll end up with BELs or you'll end up with Mystic Potions - it's a win/win! :gj:

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Which is exactly why she needs a Mystic male in her future. :) Either you'll end up with BELs or you'll end up with Mystic Potions - it's a win/win! :gj:

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Exactly :gj:

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Not sure who told you that, but a butter is a butter, a lesser is a lesser, and a pinstripe is a pinstripe. She has about as much chance to be anything if that's what their expertise told you. There's no way she could be a butter from a lesser x pinstripe pairing - genetics just don't work that way. At best, she could be a lesser (which is incredibly similar to butter) from that pairing, but from the looks of her she's unlike any lesser or butter I've ever seen.

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so then how do you get a butter? I'm just curious. I'm not sure if I heard the pairing right then but I'm almost positive she's a butter. you don't think?

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Originally Posted by alykoz

so then how do you get a butter? I'm just curious. I'm not sure if I heard the pairing right then but I'm almost positive she's a butter. you don't think?

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Butter is a base morph that is very similar to lesser (some argue that they're the same). You get butters from butters. :)

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

Well, butter/lesser and Mojave are allelic, so perhaps the gun metal eyes can appear in both morphs. She definitely has the coloring of butter/lesser. Killer dorsal too :)

It could be that any of the BEL complex have the ability to have the gun metal grey/blue eyes. It's a neat trait that I don't see too terribly often, makes for a wicked looking snakey that's for sure!

How often are you feeding her? Once a week or once every 5 days? Also, "big mouse" to you could be a normal mouse to me. I like to weigh my snakes/rodents so I know they're getting the 10-15% body weight. Or at least I did in the beginning, now I just eye ball it. Too many snakes to weigh every rat before feeding :P

Get that girl on rats so you don't have to feed 4-5+ mice at a feeding when she's 2kg+! ;)

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I've been feeding her every seven days. she's my first Bp so idk how big is too big! lol she's only almost two months so I just don't wanna over feed and then she expects it every time. but the last one she took like a champ so I am not too worried. I am going to get her started on rats once she's big enough. how big do they seem to be when you eyeball it?

I start mine out on rats personally, but I breed rats so I have access to all sizes. As far as eyeballing, you want it as big around as the thickest part of their body.

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

I start mine out on rats personally, but I breed rats so I have access to all sizes. As far as eyeballing, you want it as big around as the thickest part of their body.

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yeah she started on rats but the place by my house says they only have ones that are good for a bigger Bp
the last mouse I gave her was a bit bigger than that but she got it down and didn't have a huge lump so I figured it was okay.

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Originally Posted by alykoz

yeah she started on rats but the place by my house says they only have ones that are good for a bigger Bp
the last mouse I gave her was a bit bigger than that but she got it down and didn't have a huge lump so I figured it was okay.

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A good scale is a useful tool in the snake room for measuring both snakes and food. I still measure all of my rats before feeding to make sure they're appropriate sized (10-15% of snake's last empty weight). I also record the rat's weight on my husbandry charts, but I keep track of everything.

Here's the one that I use: http://www.amazon.com/My-Weigh-7001-...eywords=7001dx.

Looks like a butter/lesser to me, and my butter girl has those metallic like eyes too:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...psbb6da5dc.jpg