Ball Pythons through Major League Reptiles eyes

Excellent post! I am so new to this world that it is nice to learn different approaches. I for one don't want to get overly hung up on precise terms and shove every little thing into a box with a definition. For me It would become unpleasant. I appreciate the science and at the end of the day we see the results of breeding. The results are the same wether or not (pied or any other controversial morph) is labelled recessive, co-Dom or incomplete Dom. These labels are tools to me. But sometimes the tool can be improved or stand the test of time.

Like most people introduced into the reptile world it is something new and exciting to see and interact with. Honestly I never thought I would even want more than one. Now a year later I want to try breeding. I love these animals and can't imagine not having as a pet. I can't see myself relying on it as a business but I love the animals and the community (with some exceptions). I see the labels as tools to help me understand what is going on but I like your approach Brant. It seems a little more organic and enjoyable. So little is still known about so many animals, keeping a loose grip on current perspectives leaves room for growth and development.

I was of course drawn to the crazy looking morphs in the beginning but now I am really starting to appreciate more subtleties in simple morphs and starting to appreciate the very subtle morphs (though my eye is not great yet). I also really want to keep a "normal" when I hatch one. I think it will be nice to have a loose reference point. I still have a long way to go but I really like developing my eye for these guys and I wish more posts like this were made by people at all experience levels (without all the defensive and aggressive emotions that seem to enter and kill a would be great discussion. Tooany get hung up on what's right and wrong.

Wow I always seem to overwrite my posts. Sorry for that.

Thanks Brant!

Thanks for the post on your thoughts. It is interesting to see how a person with success has worked his way there. I found your posts on the Het Pied thread helpful and worthwhile. It will be interesting to see how the Ball Python community continues to react to the new information and observations being made about established morphs.

i know this is old but hey, it made me not feel alone about a lot of questions i had about some of the genetics in bp's. I'm new and have a decent understanding on genetics and a few of the terms confused me, as well as what is deemed recessive, co-dom/dominate, and how some of the different genes work with each other. i have the same feelings on a lot of it and want to thank you for this write up and pointing me to the "what are pieds" post. . . very well written and i really see how you are looked up to in this community, your understanding and the way you look at things shows up in your animals. keep it up :gj:

When i took advanced anatomy in high school a while back, my teacher said that every human has thousands of mutations within their own genetics that are truly unique to that person. The thing is we are so accustomed to people looking different or the same as each other that we dont see it as a mutation, just how that person looks (hair, eyes, height, skin color). This can be transferred to the world of ball pythons where im sure every snake as multiple unique muations, its only the rare 1 in a million that has a mutation that stands out to the eye. Just imagine how many morphs are hidden behind a normal looking paint job, but may contain a super form . Theyre just to far spread apart in the world that they do get to breed with each other.

Many times its just dumb luck where someone breeds two normals with 2 different hidden mutations that combine to show something fancy.

The cool thing is that i believe the number of morphs will always be unlimited because every new baby will have new mutations that could be possibly mixed with other mutations through breeding to create new morphs

More babies= more mutation crosses=more eventual morphs!

Evolution!

Brant , can i traduce it to spanish and post it in my Facebook site with your signature of course ?
very nice write

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Originally Posted by gcanibe

Brant , can i traduce it to spanish and post it in my Facebook site with your signature of course ?
very nice write

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Absolutely. Thanks for asking.


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This is exactly how I feel about Butter/Lesser morph argument. Maybe i'm taking something completely different from your post but I feel that even though some morphs have similar outcomes, they're genetically different (not trying to start an argument and hijack this thread just my opinion).

Nevertheless, that was a very insightful post.


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