Snake needs help

LOL I'm at work too. Multitasking :P

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Originally Posted by FireStorm

Do you have a thermometer in addition to the thermostat, to measure the hot side temps? If so, what kind (digital or analog)? Where is your thermostat probe? How long did you soak him for? How warm was the water? Keep in mind that if the water feels warm to you, it will feel hot to your snake.

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Yes, I have both of em. (all in one) It's placed under the substract / under the hide. I'm currently using green turf. (like news paper, but easier to clean)

It was mineral oil. I only used a small amount (about a cap full) with warm water. I soaked him for about 3-5 mins? then I dried him off with paper towels.
The water was about medium hotness. (not too hot)

I heard of the treatment from my local Petland, the guy who told me about seemed to know what he was talking about. but I should of checked it out non the less..
My snakes going to the vet tomorrow, I'll post a update.

edit: ya just checked the bottle, it was oil. the guy in the store said to use water.

you people are tripping and could use some critical thinking skills. If you were using reptile relief and killing the mites on the snake and not the enclosure you will have a hard time getting rid of them. If you then use PAM and then killed the eggs in the enclosure it would look like the magic happened. The recommended approach is to use reptile relief on the snake itself while at the same time using PAM to treat the enclosure and then repeating it once a week for two weeks. Stop getting so pissy and take the five seconds it took me to find this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CX0Dki0yAA

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Originally Posted by Newbie Ball

Yes, I have both of em. (all in one) It's placed under the substract / under the hide. I'm currently using green turf. (like news paper, but easier to clean)

It was mineral oil. I only used a small amount (about a cap full) with warm water. I soaked him for about 3-5 mins? then I dried him off with paper towels.
The water was about medium hotness. (not too hot)

I heard of the treatment from my local Petland, the guy who told me about seemed to know what he was talking about. but I should of checked it out non the less..
My snakes going to the vet tomorrow, I'll post a update.

edit: ya just checked the bottle, it was oil. the guy in the store said to use water.

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Yeah the mineral oil actually makes the coating on their scales fall off. Its not the actual scale, just the coating. It will come back after the next shed so don't worry about it. But yeah, stop the mineral oil. The pet store employee might have suggested mineral water.. but that wouldn't be any more helpful than regular water.


Vet sounds like a good idea. I do highly recommend the PAM though. You can make an educated decision on what to used based on the conversation above.

The mineral oil is probably why the scales are sloughing off. Please keep us updated on what the vet says.

I've used RID lice bedding spray with 4 snakes now to get rid of mites. It's pretty much the same thing as PAM and used the same way. One of the rescues I have right now was the worst I've ever seen. The previous owner had brought it into our clinic after getting them from a "friend" of hers. He had mites at that time, but a month later she called me saying she couldn't handle taking care of him (he also had a RI, mouth rot, and hadn't eaten in a YEAR - red-tail boa), so I came and got him. She had been using Reptile Relief every 3 days (as instructed) the entire time. When I got him home, within 12 hours, the paper towels I put him on looked as through someone had taken a pepper shaker to it.

Using the RID, all the mites were completely gone within 2 weeks. So, yeah, that's my experience with Reptile Relief, O_o

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Originally Posted by ewaldrep

you people are tripping and could use some critical thinking skills. If you were using reptile relief and killing the mites on the snake and not the enclosure you will have a hard time getting rid of them. If you then use PAM and then killed the eggs in the enclosure it would look like the magic happened. The recommended approach is to use reptile relief on the snake itself while at the same time using PAM to treat the enclosure and then repeating it once a week for two weeks. Stop getting so pissy and take the five seconds it took me to find this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CX0Dki0yAA

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Okay, nothing against LLL reptile but I don't think that that video was very good in terms of how to use what she clearly stated was POISIN.

Yes provent a mite is a dangerous chemical in its aerosol form. She seems to be spraying this stuff inside, with rats and other animals right behind her, and the snake in a critter keeper only a few feet away.... I also think she is using WAY to much. You don't need to spray PAM every week. Maybe wait 3-4 weeks and spray once more.


Man maybe I should do a video on how I treat my animals for mites. ;)

What I would do differently is take the enclosure OUTSIDE before spraying. Opening a window can only do so much and I surely don't want to be cooped up in a room while spraying this stuff. When I spray the substrate, I literally spray for 1-2 seconds for small tubs, and 3-4 seconds for big tubs. THAT IS IT. She does quite a few passes with the PAM.... a little too much for my liking. After all it is POISIN.

Back from the vet.
The vet said it was nothing, too much lubricating was the killer. But the vet said he should be fine, just to soak him in some Warmish water for a minutes. (to take off the lubricate).

Also said he was little under feed, might need to upgrade his prey size, or feed every 5 days. he weighed in at 227 grams. Hes currently eating 1 large mice a week..Might upgrade to a rat?( that's if he will eat it.)
Vet wants to do a follow up in 3-4 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Newbie Ball

Back from the vet.
The vet said it was nothing, too much lubricating was the killer. But the vet said he should be fine, just to soak him in some Warmish water for a minutes. (to take off the lubricate).

Also said he was little under feed, might need to upgrade his prey size, or feed every 5 days. he weighed in at 227 grams. Hes currently eating 1 large mice a week..Might upgrade to a rat?( that's if he will eat it.)
Vet wants to do a follow up in 3-4 weeks.

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Did the vet says anything about treating for mites?

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Originally Posted by Newbie Ball

Back from the vet.
The vet said it was nothing, too much lubricating was the killer. But the vet said he should be fine, just to soak him in some Warmish water for a minutes. (to take off the lubricate).

Also said he was little under feed, might need to upgrade his prey size, or feed every 5 days. he weighed in at 227 grams. Hes currently eating 1 large mice a week..Might upgrade to a rat?( that's if he will eat it.)
Vet wants to do a follow up in 3-4 weeks.

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Just want to emphasize...if the water feels warm to you, it will be HOT to your snake. Our body temp is about 98F, so if the water feels warm to you, it's going to be over 98 degrees...way, way too hot. The water should feel almost cool to you (or get a thermometer to check the temp - you don't want it over 90. 80-85 is probably fine).

Also, just in case anybody else is considering using mineral oil, I would not recommend it. Aside from the scale issues, mineral oil in the lungs is very, very dangerous.