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Male or Female Clown?

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  • 03-31-2013, 03:19 AM
    tomjones456
    only problem is that a female 'het clown' like lesser-pastel or pastel is gonna be hard to find or extremely expensive
  • 03-31-2013, 03:39 AM
    Royal Hijinx
    Re: Male or Female Clown?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomjones456 View Post
    only problem is that a female 'het clown' like lesser-pastel or pastel is gonna be hard to find or extremely expensive

    Once hatchlings hit this season, there will be quite a few available.
  • 03-31-2013, 05:13 AM
    kevinb
    Male or Female Clown?
    This is just my $.02 and take it or leave it Honestly I really think you should wait before getting anything. You have said before that you are still in hs and that you plan on going to college. 99.9% of colleges don't allow any types of animals soooo where do you plan on keeping them? If you hide them in your dorm you run the risk of being found out and then what? Unless you have super understanding parents I doubt they will want to take care of them if you decide to leave them at home. You say you want to breed all these recessive things which is awesome because recessives are really great but I know for sure you will have plenty of trouble selling off het babies at your age. I wouldn't even trust buying off someone my age. You have NO reputation so its going to be hard. Plus with all those females you are talking about possibly getting what do you plan on doing with all the offspring? Do you know how you are going to feed and pay for a bunch of babies? How you are going to house them as they grow, or what you plan on doing with them when you can't sell them? These are things that need to be addressed with lengthy thought.

    I was your age once and was all gung ho like you about breeding and buying loads of snakes until someone asked me those questions and I didn't have an answer for them. He gave me advice to wait like I'm telling you and honestly it was the best decision I ever made. Heck I'm still waiting and most likely still won't have any bps for another 2 years or more.


    Like I said you can either take the good advice I'm giving you or ignore it I honestly don't care either way. But I figured I'd touch the bases that I'm sure quite a few people on here have been biting their tongues about.

    I'm just bold enough to say it.

    Good day.
  • 03-31-2013, 05:19 AM
    carlson
    Male or Female Clown?
    If I was you I'd listen to Kevin but I've also had life kick me in the gut once I left my parents home and realized how "nice and friendly" the real world can be. Your plans are awesome ones ill give you that and your desire is there but do you have all your bases covered? Some times the best bet is to just enjoy growing up a little but I'm just a name on the Internet no one can force you to do anything.
  • 03-31-2013, 11:51 AM
    snakesRkewl
    Maybe not for the OP, but male clowns bred to normals and morph females will make WAY more money than a female clown that makes one clutch a year.
    But like others said, you might want a little reputation before trying to sell hets of any kind.

    Would I love a female clown? Sure, I could have bought 4-5 of them from what the single male has made in the last 3 seasons, if that was my choosing :)
  • 03-31-2013, 03:25 PM
    tomjones456
    Re: Male or Female Clown?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kevinb View Post
    This is just my $.02 and take it or leave it Honestly I really think you should wait before getting anything. You have said before that you are still in hs and that you plan on going to college. 99.9% of colleges don't allow any types of animals soooo where do you plan on keeping them? If you hide them in your dorm you run the risk of being found out and then what? Unless you have super understanding parents I doubt they will want to take care of them if you decide to leave them at home. You say you want to breed all these recessive things which is awesome because recessives are really great but I know for sure you will have plenty of trouble selling off het babies at your age. I wouldn't even trust buying off someone my age. You have NO reputation so its going to be hard. Plus with all those females you are talking about possibly getting what do you plan on doing with all the offspring? Do you know how you are going to feed and pay for a bunch of babies? How you are going to house them as they grow, or what you plan on doing with them when you can't sell them? These are things that need to be addressed with lengthy thought.

    I was your age once and was all gung ho like you about breeding and buying loads of snakes until someone asked me those questions and I didn't have an answer for them. He gave me advice to wait like I'm telling you and honestly it was the best decision I ever made. Heck I'm still waiting and most likely still won't have any bps for another 2 years or more.


    Like I said you can either take the good advice I'm giving you or ignore it I honestly don't care either way. But I figured I'd touch the bases that I'm sure quite a few people on here have been biting their tongues about.

    I'm just bold enough to say it.

    Good day.

    first of all i'm going to be living in an apartment or duplex for college.. not a dorm. and i did say that i'm waiting 3-5 years until i even consider breeding... which is when ill be out of college. my initial plan was to get a female clown to raise up, so i can have one ready to breed whenever needed... but now some people in this thread are suggesting male, but i have no idea which one to pick. i might be leaning towards a male though due to SnakesRKewl's post^
  • 04-01-2013, 03:29 AM
    Royal Hijinx
    What SnakesRKewl is saying (I believe) is that your VISUAL Clown should be a male.

    You still need to have and raise up the hets for him to breed (thus getting them first).
  • 04-01-2013, 01:48 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Male or Female Clown?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jinx667 View Post
    What SnakesRKewl is saying (I believe) is that your VISUAL Clown should be a male.

    You still need to have and raise up the hets for him to breed (thus getting them first).

    I didn't have any het females when I started.
    What I'm saying is that when bred to normals and morph females you can make way more money than raising a single female clown and then breeding her.
    Do I wish I had female clowns, of course, and this year I should be making my own finally after 3 seasons of using the male clown.
    He's way more than made up for not having any hets or clown females in the hold backs he's produced and the profit potential.= moving forward
    My first season with the male clown I produced 1.4 yellowbelly het clowns and a ton of hets.
    I then produced a bunch of hets last season from bumblebee, pewter and yellowbelly females again.
    This season I'm breeding clown X yellowbelly het clown and yellowbelly het clown to several het clowns and clown to several other morphs and normals for more hets and morph hets.
    I have been patiently building my stock of het clowns and morph het clowns and now have a lot more in my arsenal than a clown female would ever have given me.

    I don't think you can go wrong either way, but imo a male makes far more sense especially if you have nice sized adult females to breed him to.
  • 04-01-2013, 04:12 PM
    h00blah
    Re: Male or Female Clown?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    I don't think you can go wrong either way, but imo a male makes far more sense especially if you have nice sized adult females to breed him to.

    And if you DON'T have a bunch of females to breed that clown to, maybe getting a female, and raising her up while you continue to go to school will give you enough time to have a nice big healthy clown to pair with one of Jerry's het clown male combo morphs :gj:.
  • 04-01-2013, 04:40 PM
    alan1
    Re: Male or Female Clown?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    Female lesser het clowns cost about the same as a female clown. Pastels het clown aren't too expensive either. The difference between the 2 is that the super pastel clown is HAWT.
    The super lesser clown will be an all white snake lol.... So you wouldn't even know if clown is present....

    http://vpi.com/brag/imperial_clown_bel_clown
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