Meat-eater against Ball Python

It isn't as though they can eat anything else. They're not cows, they can't go grazing on the grass(or the substrate.) A carnivorous animal CANNOT garner all their nutrients from volatile fatty acids obtained from plants. Animals can't just suddenly go vegan. The reason cows and such can survive on things like dry hay and grass is because of microbial activity in their guts. Ruminants have to go through a rigorous process of digestion, eructation, and regurgitation to digest plant matter. We can't do that. The snake cannot do that, lions can't do that, cats can't do that, sharks cannot do that.

While a lot of the details of the food industry are overblown(for example, cows are not butchered when they're alive, they're rendered completely brain-dead with a captive bolt gun), I can honestly say that the mice the snakes get are humanely killed.
Giving them a live rat, the rat will be chased around and be absolutely terrified, whereas a frozen mouse was killed with CO2. (They pass out and die without even feeling it.)

"I feel bad for eating meat...but it isn't like I'm going to do anything about it because I'm lazy."

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Originally Posted by RaskaNeil

Sounds just like every woman I have ever known. My girlfriend right now refuses to come over on feed day (So I get a day off!) and if rats are still in the cage the next day I'll never hear the end of it (Which is fine, so I leave one or two in on occasion).

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I'm sorry to hear most women you know sound squeamish and kind of silly. My Ex boyfriend was more squeamish about my snake's diet than any of my female friends XD

Also, terrible idea to leave the rats in there if they are still alive. I would hate to see your snake get eaten instead of eating! :C

I have came to conclusion, your female friend is a Troll!

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Originally Posted by RaskaNeil

Sounds just like every woman I have ever known. My girlfriend right now refuses to come over on feed day (So I get a day off!) and if rats are still in the cage the next day I'll never hear the end of it (Which is fine, so I leave one or two in on occasion).

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Seriously? :rolleyes: Spend some more time here and you'll get to know PLENTY of women who like snakes. I personally have more female than male friends who are into snakes.

At OP: Tell your friend to ditch the girlfriend. If he refuses, ditch your friend. Anyone who would willingly date someone like her is not worth spending time with.

Yeah I agree, I have found that many more women are okay with my snakes than men. I have a lot of male friends and quite a few of them are TERRIFIED by snakes. Not sure why.. maybe it has something to do with being manly? I mean, isn't indiana jones afraid of snakes?

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

I mean, isn't indiana jones afraid of snakes?

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Yes, BUT he learned that fear when he fell into a railroad car full of them as a teenager! Most people who claim they are afraid of snakes have had no such experience to warrant it. :D

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Originally Posted by Annarose15

Yes, BUT he learned that fear when he fell into a railroad car full of them as a teenager! Most people who claim they are afraid of snakes have had no such experience to warrant it. :D

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Very true, maybe they watched indiana jones too much lol!! Its cool to be afraid of snakes...uh huh..

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

Very true, maybe they watched indiana jones too much lol!! Its cool to be afraid of snakes...uh huh..

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Haha, I'm just glad I watched it enough times to learn that! Harrison Ford was waay to cute to have such a silly phobia for no reason! ;)

I know that the one time I fed live to my boa (we were out of F/T and there was NO WAY I was feeding her a F/T from the pet store) and I felt like a TERRIBLE person. Yet when I feed F/T it's no different than me handing a biscuit to my dogs. She might just be hung up on the thought of having a live animal killed by another animal when she could've prevented it, even if you've told her that they could get F/T.

I feel bad sometimes if I really sit down and think that my burger used to be a living, breathing animal. But I love burgers and chicken sandwiches and steaks, they taste amazing and they're good for you (not referring to fast food). There ARE these "snake sausages" that they make that are essentially hot dogs for reptiles. I don't know much about them though but that might be a way around her whole hypocritical argument.
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/pro...e=Reptile+Diet

I think she's just grossed out about having to keep dead rats in the freezer...












Ps. Indie fell into a car-full of VENOMOUS snakes. I probably would develop a phobia too if that happened to me as a kid. xD

She sounds bat sheet crazy.....How does she explain carnivores as part of the global and natural biological food chain then?