Black pastels and cinnamons have gene problems?

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I've had several snakes that will start breathing heavily when they get nervous, this is often audible as 'wheezing'. There is nothing physically wrong with them, it's just the snake version of hyperventilating. Once they calm down (usually when I put them back in their cage and they can't see me anymore) no more noise. The snakes that I've had this issue with were all normals. I've got several cinnamon's and a black pastel and none of them make these noises, but they also don't seem to be overly concerned with my presence and remain calm when I'm around.

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I agree. My regular pastel female wheezes/whistles when she gets excited but is healthy as a horse and growing like crazy. Whenever she gets worked up you can easily hear it and as soon as she settles down, it goes away.

Any ball python can make that noise, I don't believe it has anything to do with the cinny/black pastel gene at all.

We have several black pastels and a cinny pewter, and we've produced a number of them also, and they don't make any more noise than any other snake.

One of our Pewter Pieds, a super Pewter, and a silver bullet have all had the whistle since hatching. It is very slight but is noticeable when they get a little excited.

No issues with my Black Pastel, other than just looking awesome.

I noticed my pewter whistling the other day.

I gently opened her mouth with a rubber spatula and nothing was amiss. She's a newer addition, not sure when she last shed.

I hadn't heard about the whistling thing until now though I've heard about duck billing. Will keep my eye on this thread.

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I have had no issues with my male Black Pastel whistling or wheezing. He loves his food and is doing fantastic. As far as I've noticed, he doesn't have a "duck bill" either. I'm glad this thread was posted, though, because if ever I heard the whistling/wheezing, I would probably freak out. :D

We have the same "issue" with out 2008 Black Pastel from BHB.
Everything is fine except that he has the whistling from time to time. He's had it for as long as we've owned him.
Seems more noticeable when the humidity goes up, but that might be in my head:)
He's obviously fine though, since he's a 1000 g proven breeder:)
Glad might be the wrong word, but I'm relieved that it's not unheard of in others..
Thanks/Amea

Both of my black pastels are weirdos.

The male, Titus, wheezes constantly. I think he's sick almost every week, but I think it's just his crazy nose. Though, to look at him, he's great by all appearances.

The female, Drusilla, wheezes sometimes, but also soaks like crazy, and her face is a bit duckbilled with bigger eyes. Still beautiful though.

We're actually trying for supers this year. The black snake calls to me. I've got my fingers crossed though. I've heard mixed messages for the pairing in general.