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What research have you put into this? Have you spoken with people like Kevin McCurley, or Brian Barczyk? What is their take on it?

Yep, I would say troll much. People on internet forums can't think critically, huh? Don't forget where you're posting! Looks to me like you formed that opinion after not hearing what you wanted to in response to your post. You just acquired your second BP but you are an expert? I have a feeling that your nine year number is rather exaggerated and would ask how old you are, however if you are simply the punk kid that your posts make you come off as then you'll just lie anyway. You're welcome to post all that you want here but don't come around posting garbage and expect to be taken seriously.

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I half agreed with what you said about climbing. I do not think they are arboreal, however, as they need hides and belly heat. I think that in the wild, a tree poses a lot more danger than a branch that sits within 3 walls. I have a number of photos, though, of mine climbing, especially my normal female who likes to sit on her tree and watch me.

I then read your 'fed it a bird' post.

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So let me get this straight. You say that ball pythons are arboreal and that keeping them in a rack system in tubs is basically just not a correct way to keep them? If you are such an expert why have you not written any publications on the subject of ball python keeping????? You think that keeping snakes for nine years, if that is indeed true, makes you some sort of know it all???? Granted I have only been keeping ball pythons for four years but I will tell you this, I am going to take the advice of breeders and folks that have way more experience then you claim to have. I used to keep my ball pythons in a terrarium with branches and all that other fancy stuff. I stopped doing all of that when my snakes kept falling off the branches. I find that keeping them in tubs and a rack system has benefited them greatly. They eat, poop, shed, urinate and thrive just fine the way I keep them. I for one would not feed my ball python anything I have found outside, including a hummingbird. I prefer to stick with rats and mice that have been bred and cared for by someone. You can come at me with whatever "expertise" you may have. You can discredit my statements all you want. I am NOT going to stop keeping my snakes in a rack system. Do you have any proof to back up all of your claims? It would be very interesting if you did. People would be way more inclined to believe you if you did.

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Originally Posted by mr~python

i have a hatchling thats eaten a hummingbird (with the beak cut off) when times were hard and i had to hunt food for the snakes. lol

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I find that quite sickening.

I don't normally feed trolls, but 'tis the season for giving. I hope you dug the bullet out when you went sharpshooting hummingbirds, because you wouldn't want to give your pythons lead poisoning. But I'm sure you have all the answers, no matter how improbable they may seem. Because you're a critical thinker and all.

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My snakes are doing just fine in rack systems, thriving, eating, shedding like BallPythonluvr said. If you can't afford/aren't able to feed ball pythons the proper prey (rats, mice, ASF) you shouldn't own ball pythons. And why would oh house for then one ball in the same cage, especially different ages and sizes when "times are tough"?

I have fed my BPs chicks and they loved them.

I want to know how you hunt humming birds?

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

I have fed my BPs chicks and they loved them.

I want to know how you hunt humming birds?

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I don't have anything against feeding captive raised chicks to ball pythons (of any other snakes for that matter) I find it quite cruel to shoot a wild hummingbird, cut off its beak and feed to a ball python!