ok, now im sad

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Not sure if serious or being sarcastic. If you're trying to blame the decline of the dollar on Obama, you might want to do some googling. The dollar has been on a steady decline overall, since the mid 1930s. He doesn't have a magical lever that adjusts the prices of everything. Essentially, it's the businesses and the people that help drive the economy. If the people don't buy much, the businesses do poorly, and therefore, the economy does poorly. Exchange of money and goods is what helps things.

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Oh yeah, I forgot. Obama is the Savior, silly me. :rolleyes:

You can not blame the Bp market on just one thing. Right now the Bp market is a "buyers" market. Yes s+d do play a role, but so does all the breeders selling babies for half market prices just to make a quick sale to the new comers that do not realize they are a poor example of the morph. Every year there is a new hot morph that everyone wants. While yes the morph is amazing, but people are to focused on the new morph compared to trying to produce the greatest example of any given morph or combo. For me I would much rather buy from a guy who is taking the time to spend years on a project to produce the nicest example of the morph anyone has seen compared to the guy who just spend 10+k just to have the newest morph to just produce a bunch of middle grade quality of that new morph.
Look at bumblebees I have seen 200 gram bumblebees that look almost like a spider with a brown back. If people spent more time breeding for quality than just because what is hot right now the Bp market could stay pretty steady.
But just my .02 cents, the person who produces high quality morphs will have a better name and be remembered longer than the one just produced the new hot morph for that year.

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Oh yeah, I forgot. Obama is the Savior, silly me. :rolleyes:

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Oi. Where in my post did I say that (hint: I didn't)? Do I really need to post charts showing that the dollar has been in decline (never mind the fact that it's easy to find. Just google "value of the dollar chart")? It was in decline during Bush's presidency, Clinton's, and all the president's before. There have been blips in the small scale of things where it's improved, but the overall change has been in a downward trend. Just like oil has been in an over all upward trend (excluding that massive drop 'round Jan of 2008).

Honestly. You people need to stop being so rabid when people brings up the president. It's a fact that he doesn't control the economy or the value of the dollar. Which is my entire point. The value of the dollar itself is determined on several factors, which include: exchange rates, treasury yields and foreign currency reserves. It fluctuates daily; it's going to have a different value today than it did yesterday and tomorrow is going to be different from today.

Sure. I wasn't a fan of Bush when he was in office, but I didn't try to claim he was in control over things that he wasn't. That was even before I had the pleasure of being taught politics by a man in his sixties who's seen a number of presidents.

Regardless, I'll end the rant here since I have to get ready to leave to take a final.

He's serious... that's the power of ignorance educated by dogma.

/exit thread

Yep, I make more money on rats than snakes. Rats produce more, quicker, and year round. Easy math right there, even if they are sold for a few bucks.

Lets not forget the people that only look at balls as a cash cow. They buy a very expensive male.. Breed it to 20 normal females and when everyone hatches out they try and make what they can and then sell everything super cheap so they don't have to feed them.
That brings prices down steadily. It's really not one thing or another. It's a range of things that cause prices to go down. Decline of pricing has never deterred me from buying what morphs I like. A lot of the animals I have we're incredibly expensive when I first got into the trade. They were a dream for me to even own much less produce. I produce what I enjoy and what projects have meant something to me this whole time.
When I buy a new animal I honestly don't look at where the market will be today or tomarrow. I buy because if I honestly enjoy that morph and want to work with it I want the best example and I want to produce something awesome.


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okay i was playing with numbers and i want to share this. You invest 120k in ball pythons lets say. Lets say the market goes crazy haywire and all those animals only sell for $100. Lets assume you have 60 females and they lay 5 eggs each. 30 babies at 100 each. thats 30k so in 4 years you could rekoop your investment. lets say 2 years to raise those females plus another year to get caging supplies cost back. so now you have an investment back in 7 years which as a hobbyist i would be okay with now lets put that on my scale. 15k invested and 12 females. With the 5 egg 100 bucks each principle that is 6k a year....thoughts on that?

Just look at the prices of spiders back a few years ago.

Uh..What's CG?.... :)

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Uh..What's CG?.... :)

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Coral glow