I've made my choice for a CAGE

This is the corner of my vision enclosure.

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The visions have rounded corners and it is moulded in a single piece. The PVCx enclosures are 3 or more separate pieces glued together they meet at a hard corner it is harder to clean.

My pvcx enclosure.

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Thanks!!!

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

This is the corner of my vision enclosure.

http://images54.fotki.com/v461/photo...CC_1728-vi.jpgHosted on Fotki


The visions have rounded corners and it is moulded in a single piece. The PVCx enclosures are 3 or more separate pieces glued together they meet at a hard corner it is harder to clean.

My pvcx enclosure.

http://images49.fotki.com/v1556/phot...CC_1730-vi.jpgHosted on Fotki

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really?

yup, the vision is way easier to clean. In the end however it makes no difference really tank tub rack enclosure brand, as long as you can maintain the correct temps and basic humidity with enough security for the animal and it is feeding and doing its snakey things as it should it doesn't matter at all. Each have advantages and disadvantages and as I own and maintain all of the above I can say with knowledge and experience that they all can work and I have no dead clean preference of this one is best. Not one is perfect and weighing all the issues and advantages there is no easy answer to which one I like the most or least.

Just wanted to note that while the cages may LOOK thick, the vision cages actually conduct the heat from a heat pad extremely well. We use them in all of our retail stores, and heat pads are the only source of heat for our display V211s. In the store I manage, we start many of our baby to juvenile balls in the V211s, and they do fantastic as long as they have enough hiding places. I highly recommend lots of cork flats in combination with the plants, the combination of foliage and hiding places under the wood works well.

-Jen

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Originally Posted by LLLReptile

Just wanted to note that while the cages may LOOK thick, the vision cages actually conduct the heat from a heat pad extremely well. We use them in all of our retail stores, and heat pads are the only source of heat for our display V211s. In the store I manage, we start many of our baby to juvenile balls in the V211s, and they do fantastic as long as they have enough hiding places. I highly recommend lots of cork flats in combination with the plants, the combination of foliage and hiding places under the wood works well.

-Jen

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what UTH do you all use for these type enclosures?

I would recommend a vision 211 as well for a ball python. I have 4 of them for some of my collection that I want more secure from the racks. I use this style for UTH: http://www.reptilebasics.com/ultrath...ter-uth-11-x11
I also have several other vision tanks for some of my boas, Retic and burm. They have limitations as far as stacking and warping in the larger models but I just built a rack for mine that took care of the problems. The smaller ones are solid and you could easily stack 4 or more if you decided later on!
I have nothing against any other tanks, I have just come across mine used on craigslist.

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Originally Posted by Tfpets

I would recommend a vision 211 as well for a ball python. I have 4 of them for some of my collection that I want more secure from the racks. I use this style for UTH: http://www.reptilebasics.com/ultrath...ter-uth-11-x11
I also have several other vision tanks for some of my boas, Retic and burm. They have limitations as far as stacking and warping in the larger models but I just built a rack for mine that took care of the problems. The smaller ones are solid and you could easily stack 4 or more if you decided later on!
I have nothing against any other tanks, I have just come across mine used on craigslist.

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Up to what age can they live in the v211?

I would say for life, unless they turn out to be one of the monsters.

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Originally Posted by Tfpets

I would say for life, unless they turn out to be one of the monsters.

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really? I assumed the bigger the cage the better....