Are Lemon Blasts supposed to look like this? (Waring Pic Heavy)

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Originally Posted by MS2

Isn't this the clutch that was at 83 degrees for 83 days? If so, I'd say abnormal incubation is the cause.

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That would do it.

That was the next point I wanted to bring up. When people first said that the temp probable caused the pastel to look that way I bought it. But I've been looking at the pics a lot lately and don't think that's the case anymore. First of all for anyone no familiar with what happened I breed my pin to a friends pastel. Just before she laid I got told I had to deploy to Japan. So I asked my friend who owns a reptile shop if he would watch my snakes for me, he said yes. I dropped everything off and headed to Japan. After being here about a week she dropped 5 eggs and into the incubator they went. Little did I know until about day 52 that they were cooking at 83 degrees. I was livid, just prior to that the little pastel male that started our collection was somehow able to get inside of a heat light cage and cook himself, it was about to be 1 year old so it's not like he was tiny enough to fit through the squares of the cage. Anyway the babies were finally cut on day 83 and 2 were found dead, a normal and a pastel. The pastel died of a twisted umbilical and the normal was just dead. The pastel looked like a very pretty pastel, very bright and had a full almost unbroken dorsal stripe. The normal looked normal as well. I had thought the lemon blasts looked normal and then there was that pastel that looked crazy. I have a hard time accepting now that just one was effected by the temp for his color when the two lemon blasts look exactly the same and the other two look exactly the way they were supposed to .

I'm not sure anyone will be able to determine how the temp stress impacted each individual egg but you just added that variable to the equation. You should hold them all back and breed them back to the parents to truly determine whether something is going on or not.

I've never heard of (really only slightly) low incubation temps resulting in something like this. That pastel almost look like it's got some vanilla cream action going on. I think that must be genetic.

I get to keep one of the lemon blasts and the pastel. I think I'm gonna raise them up and see what becomes of them. I think I will also breed the pin to a normal female and see what comes out.

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Originally Posted by angeluscorpion

I get to keep one of the lemon blasts and the pastel. I think I'm gonna raise them up and see what becomes of them. I think I will also breed the pin to a normal female and see what comes out.

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I definitely would it is worth a shot. I would also repeat the pin to pastel pairing if possible.

I thought of repeating the pin X pastel with me in total control this time but I'm not sure if it will happen. With everything that has happened me and the owner of the pastel aren't on the greatest of terms.

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Originally Posted by milesp

I think there is something seriously wrong. If.I were you I would sell me one very cheap and be done with it. ;)-

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LoL.

hey stranger things have happened. think of bhb's viper ball, he paid well over 50K for it and for the life of him could not prove it genetic, after many failed attempts, gave up on the big money project. Who knows what could of caused that strange look, but it wasn't genetic apparently.

gl on proving something cool out, just don't be in denial that it might not be genetic. This is what we call a dinker project :). I got a couple myself.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

gl on proving something cool out, just don't be in denial that it might not be genetic. This is what we call a dinker project :). I got a couple myself.

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I have a pair of dinkers myself. I don't think that these guys would count as dinkers though. They are for sure at least a lemon blast and a pastel. If there is anything else, only time and breeding will tell.