RTB questions

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Originally Posted by SeeTheCityLights

I don't think we're that concerned about morphs. We'd rather save money on the boa, and put our money towards our balls because they're the ones we're going to be breeding/selling. The boa will just be our pet. :) Since we're really not concerned about the morphs and are happy with the looks of a normal pet store red tail, should we still pass? I know snakes from breeders are better quality, and I wouldn't buy my balls from a pet store (besides my first one, because he is just my little normal pet), but that's just because pet store ball morphs aren't too great looking.
I talked to a guy who knows that pet store and can get me a discount, and he said that I could get a normal, a colombian, or a pastel. What is the difference between the normal and the colombian? Or are they the same? Orrrr should I go for a pastel? Will it be the same size as a normal/colombian, just different color? What size should I be expecting from a pet store RTB once it's an adult?
A normal is just a "wild type" or normal Colombian Boa. It should be the same thing. But maybe these people don't know that, which would make me wary of the breeder that can't tell you the difference. O.o A pastel is a morph and would be the same size/weight as a normal. Again, it depends on the particular animal. Generally a pet store boa would fall in the same ranges we've already stated for a normal BCI. Since those are the most common in the pet trade.

and once he/she gets too big for the 20g I currently have, I will probably get a 6'x2' no matter if it's male or female, because I like to give them more room, but what about height? Should I get it 1' or 2' high? Do they like to climb or would it be a waste of money to get a 2'? I am personally all for a 2' high (it'll will be my display snake, so 2' gives me more room to make the cage look better) but I don't want to waste my money if they will never climb.
2' would be better since these snakes are semi-arboreal. Meaning: They love to climb. So definitely, the more height you can offer, the better. I wouldn't go much less than 2' in height though. Now, they're not like a GTP or something that will live perched its whole life. But they do enjoy climbing...as evidenced by their love of hanging out on their owner's heads. :P

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Hope that helps. :)

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Originally Posted by SeeTheCityLights

I don't think we're that concerned about morphs. We'd rather save money on the boa, and put our money towards our balls because they're the ones we're going to be breeding/selling. The boa will just be our pet. :) Since we're really not concerned about the morphs and are happy with the looks of a normal pet store red tail, should we still pass? I know snakes from breeders are better quality, and I wouldn't buy my balls from a pet store (besides my first one, because he is just my little normal pet), but that's just because pet store ball morphs aren't too great looking.
I talked to a guy who knows that pet store and can get me a discount, and he said that I could get a normal, a colombian, or a pastel. What is the difference between the normal and the colombian? Or are they the same? Orrrr should I go for a pastel? Will it be the same size as a normal/colombian, just different color? What size should I be expecting from a pet store RTB once it's an adult?

and once he/she gets too big for the 20g I currently have, I will probably get a 6'x2' no matter if it's male or female, because I like to give them more room, but what about height? Should I get it 1' or 2' high? Do they like to climb or would it be a waste of money to get a 2'? I am personally all for a 2' high (it'll will be my display snake, so 2' gives me more room to make the cage look better) but I don't want to waste my money if they will never climb.

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I still say get a snake from a breeder, but if you want to save money go for the pet store. I just personally would rather give breeders who work hard to produce nice babies money than a chain pet store.

Pastel is a morph of boa, basically they look very clean with minimal peppering with a lighter color.

My ~6' male had a "branch" (PVC homemade one) and he never used it and was happy just knocking it over. My cage is 18" high for him, I personally don't think they need any more head room than that (he's in a 4' long, 2' wide, 18" high homemade melamine cage). Once boas get larger they typically don't climb/perch as much.

Another thing you can look into is getting a boa from a rescue, like I did. Granted, your chances of getting a baby are slim (usually you're looking at juvies or adults, since that's about the time people go "wow, I didn't realize it was going to get THIS big..."), but you only pay the adoption cost. My girl was a sub-adult (she was about 4ft. when we got her) and $30, and I couldn't love her more. Plus you'll get the added warm, fuzzy feeling of adopting an animal. :)

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

Another thing you can look into is getting a boa from a rescue, like I did. Granted, your chances of getting a baby are slim (usually you're looking at juvies or adults, since that's about the time people go "wow, I didn't realize it was going to get THIS big..."), but you only pay the adoption cost. My girl was a sub-adult (she was about 4ft. when we got her) and $30, and I couldn't love her more. Plus you'll get the added warm, fuzzy feeling of adopting an animal. :)

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I'd love to rescue one, but we really only have the room for a baby right now. I want to do a rescue some day!

We actually found a baby today we are going to look at, so we'll see! :)

Thank you so much for all the help everyone, and I know I will be asking for more :P

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Originally Posted by SeeTheCityLights

I'd love to rescue one, but we really only have the room for a baby right now. I want to do a rescue some day!

We actually found a baby today we are going to look at, so we'll see! :)

Thank you so much for all the help everyone, and I know I will be asking for more :P

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I still say get a snake from a breeder, but if you want to save money go for the pet store. I just personally would rather give breeders who work hard to produce nice babies money than a chain pet store.

Pastel is a morph of boa, basically they look very clean with minimal peppering with a lighter color.

My ~6' male had a "branch" (PVC homemade one) and he never used it and was happy just knocking it over. My cage is 18" high for him, I personally don't think they need any more head room than that (he's in a 4' long, 2' wide, 18" high homemade melamine cage). Once boas get larger they typically don't climb/perch as much.

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LOL!

Don't tell my Boas that!

http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/bella2.jpg

Hubby made them a 'jungle gym' out of a 7' tree and they're all positively mad for it.

When play time is over, it takes both of us to unwind them from the branches and pull them off!

:D

Lol, yeah, by "in your face" I mean literally. Mine likes to climb all over your head, in your hair, up the front of your face. He will stuff his face right into yours. He loves to hang out in my ponytail. And mine does seem to prefer the cool side as well. Boas are just tons of fun!

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Originally Posted by Salamander

http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/bella2.jpg

Hubby made them a 'jungle gym' out of a 7' tree and they're all positively mad for it.

When play time is over, it takes both of us to unwind them from the branches and pull them off!

:D

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I love that! I have been planning on making one for her once she gets bigger. How did he make it?

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Originally Posted by SeeTheCityLights

I love that! I have been planning on making one for her once she gets bigger. How did he make it?

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We went up in the woods and found a fresh, downed tree and cut off a length with some good forked branches.

He mounted it on a wooden platform and 'cantilevered' it at a specific angle to make sure it wouldn't fall or wobble while they were climbing.
Then he took some of the excess tree branches and screwed them to the trunk to provide more horizontal surfaces for lounging.

Bob enjoys wrapping himself facing the TV so he can watch wrestling.

I think all the bright colors and fast movement intrigue him.

Bella and Beej, OTOH, seem to like to hang down and watch the cat frolicking under the tree.

[which is why the cat now gets put in the bathroom because I think the greedy, always hungry girls consider Renfield "food"]

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A much simpler way is to find a nice tree trunk and mount it in one of those metal Christmas tree stands.

You can always find them in thrift shops if you don't feel like buying a new one.

The adjustable screws in the stand allow to secure just about shape tree you can find.

You can ever add sand bags to weight it for more security.

If your tree trunk is small enough, simply sticking it in a 5 gallon bucket of sand or cement, works too.

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Originally Posted by Salamander

We went up in the woods and found a fresh, downed tree and cut off a length with some good forked branches.

He mounted it on a wooden platform and 'cantilevered' it at a specific angle to make sure it wouldn't fall or wobble while they were climbing.
Then he took some of the excess tree branches and screwed them to the trunk to provide more horizontal surfaces for lounging.

Bob enjoys wrapping himself facing the TV so he can watch wrestling.

I think all the bright colors and fast movement intrigue him.

Bella and Beej, OTOH, seem to like to hang down and watch the cat frolicking under the tree.

[which is why the cat now gets put in the bathroom because I think the greedy, always hungry girls consider Renfield "food"]

:rofl:

A much simpler way is to find a nice tree trunk and mount it in one of those metal Christmas tree stands.

You can always find them in thrift shops if you don't feel like buying a new one.

The adjustable screws in the stand allow to secure just about shape tree you can find.

You can ever add sand bags to weight it for more security.

If your tree trunk is small enough, simply sticking it in a 5 gallon bucket of sand or cement, works too.

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Thanks for the info, sounds easy enough :) I love crafty stuff like that. About how tall and wide is yours? You said 7', but is it that tall or did you cut off some height and add that sideways as limbs/lounging areas? How did you disinfect something that big? Thanks!