What is this?

I see a killer paradox. Looking at the pattern, I dont see anything that looks like pied.

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Originally Posted by aalomon

I see a killer paradox. Looking at the pattern, I dont see anything that looks like pied.

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He Can´t be a killer Paradox, because the cros was: killer bee and orange ghost males with a "Normal" Female

Killer as in really cool, not killerbee.

Very interesting...


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That is not a paradox. Both the normal and the killerbee are het pied. That baby was a pastel piebald. Do the same pairing again next season.

The patterned areas do not look Pied to me. The Pied gene not only creates the white, but it also messes with both the color and pattern of the patterned areas. Those areas typically have a light dorsal stripe bordered by dark dorsal stripes on each side, or they may have a chaotic pattern, or a mixture of light dorsal stripe and chaotic pattern. You can take a picture of the patterned area of a Pied with no white included and you can tell the pattern is tweaked. When you add Pastel, the pattern usually tweaks even more. Pieds typically have neither orderly arranged “alien heads” on their sides nor black backs.

This specimen has “alien head” pattern on the sides its neck. It also has nicely arranged “alien heads” and black-back pattern near its tail. To me, those areas look like a nice black-back Pastel, not Piebald.

I’d say repeat the pairing again. You might have something new. You could also get yourself a Pied male to breed to your female and see if you get any Pieds.

Really sorry for you that it didn't hatch. It looks like it would have been beautiful.

-Paul

Pastel Pied was my first thought! Ashame it died. I would repeat next year for sure!

I am very confused :(

I'll have to wait a year

I thought it would have a more accurate response, but I see that there are different points of view

this baby is frozen im going to take more photos, and wait for more answers


Thanks to all who have taken the time to write

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Originally Posted by h00blah

Maybe your killerbee and normal are both het pied

That looks like a pastel pied :O

Hope you have better luck next time :salute:

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Exactly what I was thinking. It definitely is a smoking snake, and I'm sorry it didn't survive :(

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A killer bee is a super pastel spider. Right? A super pastel would produce no normals. Right? So a killerbee to a normal. you should of had at least all pastels. Right? So any normal babies in the clutch would have to be fathered by the other male. The other male was a ghost. Then Id say all the normal looking babies are 100% het ghosts. Thats if Im right about the killerbee being a super pastel spider.

It does look like a pastel pied. Id breed the killerbee back to the same female this season. To see if your killerbee, and that normal mom are 100% het pied also. Hope that helps.