My question of the day to the multi snakers.

I dunno what I'd do without my BCIs. Not only are they beautiful but they are active (when handled), a great size for intermediate keepers, and very docile. I love my BP to pieces, but boas as a species are really something else. Couldn't recommend a BCI more.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Haha ok, idk. I was just making sure you got the joke :D:P





AHHHH i hate you guys lol. As soon as i get my own apt. ill have the room for one! Then ill show you both! Muahahahhaa

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LMAO..... :D.

They start small, and grow slower than bps, you could fit a baby in there somewhere for now........

:eek::eek::eek::):):D:D:D

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i cant believe no one has suggested a woma python yet.....not the ball morph called a woma but an actual woma python.
great snakes. not too much larger than a ball. different in appearance and good demeanor.
adam jeffery

That's an interesting snake, I also checked the Macklots python. I have to say it's really between the Red Tail or the Dums. I'm sure I can find something in the 7-9 FT range. I have a nice book by Vincent Russo on Boas and I think I can narrow things down. Even more exciting news for me is that Monster Cages is located in my state and I believe they produce some decent large snake enclosures.

I really like the colors of the boas that closely resemble the regular BP. The darker browns and blacks. Is that a certain type as I tried sorting by location and there was still a huge amount of variation?

Dumerils Boa and Red Tail boas are great. But remember that their requirements are a lot different then a BP in 5 yrs to 10 yrs. Cages, feeding ect..

I am wanting a Dumeril and it is on my list, Might even have one pick out. I have a friend who has one since a baby and it is the greatest and just the right size fully grown.

But Welcome to the World of Snakes, We love it and moved into other reptiles now also.

:)

Terrance

Not to bump my thread for the sake of bumping it, but I have now considered the Blood python as well. Who has experience with them? If the angry rep still follows them, I would be easily turned off as I don't want to have to work hard to have an enjoyable snake.

Also on the subject of RT boas getting huge. I read on a RTB forum that you can stunt their growth in a way that is not unhealthy for them and keep them in at a size that is manageable. Is that true? If so does that mean short and skinny or shorter with some girth?

I like the Bloods and of course the big Royals because 5.5-6 FT and thick is what I like, However 7' is very cool and I'd love a 7 footer, 8 is doable but after that I think solo handling becomes difficult.

I'll take any advice and listen to all suggestions and opinions. Nothing will happen for a year and I love my son's snake. Experienced our 1st perfect shed and went right into a food size increase. Things are going very well and really nothing is going to happen for at least a year.

I don't have any experience with bloods, but have heard that they aren't the friendliest. They are beautiful though. As far as stunting rtbs's growth, I would never do that. I just don't see how that can be healthy. If you don't want something with potential to get that big, then don't get one. Typically though, males won't have the girth of a female.

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"As far as stunting rtbs's growth, I would never do that"

Yeah, I'm gathering that the poster wasn't implying starving and had argued his way of feeding kept his snakes living longer than what others usually do. I didn't get the specifics, but it sounded like his feeding schedule was just longer in between and he kept his temps a touch lower. I'd also read something similar in Vincent Russo's book THE COMPLETE BOA CONSTRICTOR. I'll see what i can dig up.

But I enjoy the feeding process and consider it one of the most fun and interesting things about keeping snakes.

Thanks for the insights.

I say you can't go wrong with a boa constrictor. If you are unsure of what size you can handle I would look into the Hogs and the CA boas. I've still seen some Hog girls get up to ~7' in length but you can always consider a male. The CAs I read can be hissy pissy when babies but I wouldn't let that deter you from them: with time and handling they should calm into nice passive adults (who stay very manageable at up to ~5'). As for Argentines I love them, I plan to get a T+ down the road.

If size of caging isn't an issue I love the Colombians. The normals can be very clean to very speckled (called peppering) and colors ranging from light brown to dark, to ones with peach tones to grey tones - much like normal balls they vary in color for normals Colombians. They also come in lots of nice morphs, so there's something for everyone. A 4' cage for a male should be fine and a 6' for a female: you can buy cages already made or make your own cheaper (I have a melamine cage for one of my boas and plan to build all my future ones for my retic, other boas, and bloods).

I can't speak for Dums personally, but my bf has a baby and out feeder guy has a big (overweight) female and I really like both. I read babies can be harder to get started eating (my bf's girl will NOT take f/t) but overall I like them and read nothing but good things about them.

Onto bloods, I really enjoy my two and yes I do read some babies can be little turds. My T+ girl is a total sweetheart (still a wee thing at ~300 grams) but my Sumatran short-tail (Black Blood) girl is going through her teenager stage and has struck at me quite a few times. She can be intimidating but I've been working with her more to calm her. They can be, like any snake, unpredictable. I read though that many as adults are very manageable and tame, and also they need actual caging as well IMO: I plan on 4-6' vivs for my girls depending on what size they get too so they're not like my ball pythons where they can stay in a tub forever. They like cooler temps too.

And of course, I love my balls but I hate it when they won't eat: how frustrating lol My boas and bloods never refuse.

Here's some pics of some of my guys:

Jungle morph Colombian boa male:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...June920128.jpg

Pure Hog Island BCI female (pure Hogs will be powdery/orangey/peachy: the hypo Hogs or Hog x Colombian crosses will usually get larger and have more orange tones to them):

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...June420125.jpg

Hypo morph Colombian boa female:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...0127-Copy2.jpg

T+ albino Sumatran blood female:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...May1920121.jpg

Sumatran short-tail (Black Blood) female:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...l2120125-1.jpg

Sharp strain albino morph Colombian boa female:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...y3120125-1.jpg

You might consider a jungle carpet python. Very cool snakes and easy as heck as far as husbandry. They tend to be a bit nippy as babies but quickly get over that with a bit of handling. Here are a few pics of my 16 year old boy, sorry for quality but my camera kinda sucks.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03100.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03106.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03102.jpg