Is It Good To Take Your BP Out For A Walk ?

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I also know my snakes pretty well and know which ones tolerate it.

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This is an excellent point.

Call me paranoid, but I can't imagine putting my snake in the grass/flowers/trees. I would love too, it makes for beautiful pictures. But, ish, there are all kinds of bugs and who knows what. I don't want them on my snake. I know its my yard, and I know for a fact there are no chemicals anywhere, because I won't use them in my yard/flowers/trees. But still just paranoid. I actually got some fake flowers and a basket at the dollar store today to take some pictures with. I know it won't look anything like the real thing though. :rolleyes: My camera wants a picture of my snakes outdoors, but I just can't bring myself to do it. :D

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

This might be a point at which to note that, in our breeding programs, we should strive to select for docile, calm animals that are adaptable to change and aren't easily stressed.

I think an unfortunately large number of folks side-step that issue when breeding, and go for color and pattern at the expense of all else.

We can also help promote this by demanding good temperaments and flexible feeders when we go shopping for snakes--a higher demand will induce more people to select for these traits, and price them higher--thus creating a stronger market for them.

Our snakes should be able to shrug off a jaunt out into the sunlight without experiencing undue stress. At present, not all of them can.

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Oh boy, you just opened up a HUGE can of worms lol. The whole nature vs. nuture argument pretty much. What if i bred together two the most aggressive or nervous bps? Youre saying their babies would be aggressive or nervous too?
Another thing that factors into a bps temperment could be how much theyre handled after hatching. Big breeders only handle for cleaning the tub usually. But a smaller hobbyist breeder would probably have more time to take out the babies and handle them for pleasure. So all of BHB's and NERD's hatchlings must be really flighty since theyre not used to being handled right?

Im not saying i dont agree with you, i actual do agree that those traits could be hereditary; however, theres not real way to prove it unless you keep all of your hatchlings and raise them in the same environment for generations and generations. So yes, i realize im being sorta hypocritical, but im playing devils advocate because what youre saying really isnt feasible.

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

Call me paranoid, but I can't imagine putting my snake in the grass/flowers/trees. I would love too, it makes for beautiful pictures. But, ish, there are all kinds of bugs and who knows what. I don't want them on my snake. I know its my yard, and I know for a fact there are no chemicals anywhere, because I won't use them in my yard/flowers/trees. But still just paranoid. I actually got some fake flowers and a basket at the dollar store today to take some pictures with. I know it won't look anything like the real thing though. :rolleyes: My camera wants a picture of my snakes outdoors, but I just can't bring myself to do it. :D

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Yea im sure there are no bugs in the termite mounds that the bps live in over in Africa...:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yea im sure there are no bugs in the termite mounds that the bps live in over in Africa...:rolleyes:

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Lol, not on my babies....

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yea im sure there are no bugs in the termite mounds that the bps live in over in Africa...:rolleyes:

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West Africa needs more PAM!!! An unexploited market for sure :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

Lol, not on my babies....

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Yea i was just busting your chops, i figured you knew i was joking lol:D

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Originally Posted by Slim

West Africa needs more PAM!!! An unexploited market for sure :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Screw backpacking in Europe to "find myself! I wanna go to Africa! I could open my own little PAM stand and then go hunting for cool dinkers in my spare time!

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yea i was just busting your chops, i figured you knew i was joking lol:D



Screw backpacking in Europe to "find myself! I wanna go to Africa! I could open my own little PAM stand and then go hunting for cool dinkers in my spare time!

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You sir, are a hoot! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by ballpythonluvr

You sir, are a hoot! :rofl:

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Jee thanks mister, i get that alot :D

I'm a firm believer in socializing reptiles. I used to take Kolbe out (which is how my neighbor who adopted him after Hurricane Katrina fell in love with him). Kolbe is still very much the neighborhood mascot and he's been handled by most of the neighbors. He comes out when we have big get togethers. He's also been to schools. I plan on starting to bring Kira out as soon as she is completely settled in and used to the family. Since I plan on bringing her to schools as an education animal, I want her to be used to change and being handled by different people. All three of my iguanas are well socialized and so is our Sulcatta and box turtles.

An added benefit is that if they have to go to the vet they don't stress as much because they are used to leaving home. Now, I'm sure there are some animals that don't adapt well to being handled and if I had one like that I'd leave it home. I did have one iguana who was very anti-social and so he lived out his life being handled as little as possible.