Can I attatch my ZooMed Heat pad directly to tub?

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

here you go...

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...graphic)/page3

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I see a post that is hearsay(a post about another post) that says it was caused by a heat pad. Looks like a typical heat rock injury to me. Heat rocks are known to malfunction.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

What do you mean by that?

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which word did you not understand?

I could pull up hundreds of threads on this site alone where someone has an unregulated UTH and it burned their snake, it is common knowledge in the reptile community.

By your own admission they can get up to at least 125 degrees...

it takes about 15 seconds for a human to get a second degree burn from 125 degree water... so what do you think that will do to a cold blooded snake sitting on it for hours? common sense says that the snake will get burned.

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Originally Posted by suzuki4life

which word did you not understand?

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I understand the words, I don't understand the point that you are trying to make with that statement.

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

I could pull up hundreds of threads on this site alone where someone has an unregulated UTH and it burned their snake, it is common knowledge in the reptile community.

By your own admission they can get up to at least 125 degrees...

it takes about 15 seconds for a human to get a second degree burn from 125 degree water... so what do you think that will do to a cold blooded snake sitting on it for hours? common sense says that the snake will get burned.

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it won't be 125 degrees once it passes through glass and substrate.

You might lose 5 degrees going through the glass, that is still 120... more than hot enough to burn a snake. Substrate is irrelevant as a snake can burrow/get under it and lay directly on the floor of the cage.

a BP can sustain neurological damage at 108 degrees...

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

You might lose 5 degrees going through the glass, that is still 120... more than hot enough to burn a snake. Substrate is irrelevant as a snake can burrow/get under it and lay directly on the floor of the cage.

a BP can sustain neurological damage at 108 degrees...

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I guess they should lay their cage out better then.

I bet if I take a heat pad, place it under a tank, plug it directly into the wall, place repti carpet and then a piece of slate over it(rock)...I'll bet the rock and area around it will be lucky to hit 100 degrees.

But why not just get a thermostat and keep the UTH at a safe temperature? they really aren't that expensive... say the average BP lives 20 years... Say you get a good thermostat... the herpstat 1 (retails for $139.00) that means that over the life of the snake, does $139 really matter? that is $6.95 a year.

And a proportional thermostat will increase the lifespan of a UTH. UTH's are basically giant resistors. The number 1 cause of premature failure of resistors is overheating... just like almost every other electrical component.

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Originally Posted by suzuki4life

I bet if I take a heat pad, place it under a tank, plug it directly into the wall, place repti carpet and then a piece of slate over it(rock)...I'll bet the rock and area around it will be lucky to hit 100 degrees.

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Sure. Just don't try it with a snake in there. :P

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Originally Posted by rebelrachel13

Sure. Just don't try it with a snake in there. :P

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I don't need to "try" it. I'm sure its been done by me throughout the last 20+ years at some point in time.