Madison, my low grade pastel

I have to jump on the "that's not a pastel" wagon too....once you look at more morphs you'll slowly get an "eye" for them, though you'll still have the tricky ones that are more subtle. And some normals do have green-looking/lighter eyes that could be misleading.

Here are some quick cell phone shots of my '08 "browned out" "low quality " NERD line male pastel.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/IMAG0510.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/IMAG0521.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/IMAG0520.jpg

It's pretty clear that's a normal. I don't know what the upside of the "expert" telling you it was a pastel for. Did he or she sell it to you as a pastel and bump the price on you a little?

Thats a normal. Sorry if it was sold to you as a pastel. I would also like to know who the expert is. If its the same person that sold it to you then i think they owe you some money back!

Here's my low grade male pastel. Looks normal sometimes but here's a face shot.

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0120426_20.jpg

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0907-00275.jpg

I don't want to jump on any sides but with brown eyes your going to have a very hard time convincing people that she is a pastel. She is very light, and very beautiful. But based on the photo's provided no one would call her a pastel. Sorry..

Cheers,
Chris.

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Originally Posted by carlisleishere

This is a great tool.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ot-...-Pastels

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this is a great link! thanks for sharing.

blushing is neither here nor there when it comes to spotting a pastel. Pastels have such a high number of variances that the only definitive way to tell a pastel from a normal is the eyes. Normals are capable of having blushing as well. I'll post a picture of my normal, and my pastel females, they are sisters from the same clutch. All the other tricks are to help to qualify it's grades, from low quality to high quality, and to help identify different lines of pastels. If your having a hard time distinguishing it from a normal than it's not something you would want as a part of your breeding plans, and if you have no plans of breeding than it doesn't really matter what her morph is. She is very beautiful anyways.

NORMAL
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../8/whitney.jpg

PASTEL
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...1/9/8/june.jpg

Cheers,
Chris.

^Personally, i see a HUGE difference in those 2! Quite obvious!

That sucks Shellie, definitely not a pastel :(

woops.. accident post.