Snake abuse

Im not stealing anything, i think that point was made.
Im going to see if we can get a rehoming fee that is suitable for the snakes owner, a cut for the guys housing it,and the snake a new home. If we can come to terms, no big deal. The owner is friends with the housers, so that will help, were not really sure why hes acting like this though, and its pissing alot of people off.
And yeah im jacked about my snake!
But im this way with any animals. If someone isnt properly caring for fish, id seek to educate or eradicate their bad behavior. Same goes for turtles, and even feeder rats. Animal cruelty is wrong, plain and simple. Iduno, ive been tld this is a poor frame of mind, but any animal, big or small, is equally important, and has every right to live as i do. When we take things out of their homes, we become liable, and it sucks some people dont get that.
I know theres bad people out there slim, murderers, rapist, all sorts of crazies, it just sucks... this is mostly a vent and figure a plan thread, im not stealing anthing though, as the owner already said snakes going nowhere without cash..

Have to agree with Slim...at this point it looks like there's not much you can do. And say if you were to actually come up with the $200 funds for her...who's to say that she won't come down with an illness (if she doesn't have one already: sometimes RIs can take a while to develop into noticeable symptoms - as an example) then that's going to be some costly vet bills which sound like you cannot afford right now. I would do the best for her that you can do at the moment, like giving her heat and security and hope for the best. Perhaps you and the owner can come to an agreement when he gets back. Good luck.

Yeah hopefully we can talk somthing out..still, its a shame, the snake is super friendly

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Originally Posted by serpent fan

If someone isnt properly caring for fish, id seek to educate or eradicate their bad behavior. Same goes for turtles, and even feeder rats. Animal cruelty is wrong, plain and simple. Iduno, ive been tld this is a poor frame of mind, but any animal, big or small, is equally important, and has every right to live as i do.

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I do not condone animal cruelty either, but it's important to recognize when you've made the transition to Don Quixote...

ABANDON or ABANDONMENT. ABANDONMENT consists of leaving an animal for a period in excess of 24 hours, without the animal's owner or the owners designated caretaker providing all provisions of necessity as defined in this chapter and checking on the animal's condition.

Courtesy of http://www.louisvilleky.gov/

Call your local animal shelter and tell them about the situation. They should be able to tell you what your rights in this situation are and what is the most effective way to handle the situation. In my opinion you have a lot of options, and it is silly not to at least try to help out a creature that cant help its self... and I think that just because your local shelter might not be "reptile friendly" that they are not a great resource in this situation and would probably be very willing to help remove the animal and turn custody over to you.

If i tell them,and we can legally take the snake, what stops them from coming in and doing that. Thy know of an unlawful act, and would contact authoraties, and possibly take it to a kill shelter. This is what i want to avoid, id rather the guyy just admit hes a dbag and give us permission to rehome..

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Originally Posted by Slim

I do not condone animal cruelty either, but it's important to recognize when you've made the transition to Don Quixote...

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I gotchya, im not stealing anything, thanks.....

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Originally Posted by serpent fan

If i tell them,and we can legally take the snake, what stops them from coming in and doing that. Thy know of an unlawful act, and would contact authoraties, and possibly take it to a kill shelter. This is what i want to avoid, id rather the guyy just admit hes a dbag and give us permission to rehome..

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Honestly they got their hands full, they are not going to go out of their way to find you and take it. You don't have to give them details if you are that worried. It doesn't to hurt to call and ask a few questions.

"Hi, a snake was left at my friends house. He no longer wants to care for it and it has been there for oh so much time. What can he do? The owner says he is coming back but..." you get the idea.

In my area, if someone leaves an animal with you for over a certain amount of time, you are considered responsible for it and can turn it over to a rescue or someone else if you so please. Just check it out, or don't.
You seem like a decent person who is rightly upset over an awful situation. It might help you to know what your rights are in this situation.

If he left the animal in their care without providing for it's basic needs, after 3 days it becomes their property, to do with as they please.

Three summers ago, my daughter went for a walk around our neighborhood, and came home with the most pitiful looking kitten I'd ever seen. It was so emaciated, dehydrated and sick, I don't know how it wasn't dead. We syringe fed it fluids and soft food, it could not stand up to eat or drink. After about a week, it was starting to act like a normal kitten, it could walk and potty on it's own.

All of a sudden, one night as we are watching TV, this little kids knocks on our door and says we stole that kitten, and his mom wants it back. I told the boy I had no idea what he was talking about, that my daughter found a kitten, and we had saved it from death. He leaves and 10 minutes later he's back. We stole the kitten, and his mom wants her kitten back or else. I told him yet again, my daughter found a kitten abandon in a yard, no one around, it was obviously near death, and we had saved it. If his mom thought this was her kitten, why didn't she come talk to me herself ? He leaves again.

10 minutes later he comes back with his slightly older sister, he's about 7 she's maybe 10. Both kids tell me again, we stole the kitten and their mom wants it back right now. I told them both, the kitten was not their mom's it was abandoned, if she thinks the kitten is hers, she should have the nerve to come talk to me instead of sending her two little kids. I told them point blank I was not going to give them this kitten, period. They both leave.

15 minutes later, this lady shows up at my door demanding I return the kitten my daughter stole. I asked her how my daughter stole the kitten. Did she break into your house and steal it ? The woman says no, that she had taken the kittens outside and put them in a box with a for sale sign, but the kittens all dissapeared and she didn't get any money. Once she found out we had one of her kittens, she wanted me to pay her for this kitten. I told her the kitten my daughter found was nowhere near her house, that it was emaciated and dehydrated and nearly dead, it had obviously been neglected. The woman got all huffy and nasty, she took great care of her kittens and how dare I suggest she neglected them. I told her simply, then that proves this wasn't your kitten. She asks to see the kitten, so I agree. I figure if she see's the kitten, she'll know it isn't hers and will stop bothering me.

So I go and get the kitten and bring it out. She looks at it and says, "Oh, that is my kitten!" and she tries to snatch it from me. I pulled the kitten away from her, and told her she couldn't have it. She asked what I meant. I told her the truth, this kitten was starving and dehydrated and sick, if she was responsible for that condition, she sure as h-e-double hockey sticks wasn't getting that kitten back. She then threatened to call the police on me if I didn't hand it over. I told her to go ahead and call, she knew where I lived. She stormed off, and I called the sheriff's department myself. I explained the situation, and the referred me to my local Animal Control Office.

I called Animal Control and explained the situation again. The lady was very sympathetic to me and asked how long I had had the kitten. I told her over a week. She chuckled and said, if the kitten was obviously neglected and appeared to be abandoned { ie. it wasn't being cared for} then once I had the kitten in my possession for three days, it became my property. She told me if the woman did follow through with her threat, the police could not remove the kitten from my care because it was now mine.

So, if this person is not caring for the animal, or paying for it's care, after three days it is considered abandoned and the people who are caring for it now own that snake. Plain and simple. So, explain to them the animal is considered abandoned and they are free to do whatever they see fit to do, and this person who abandoned it cannot do a thing about it. If you do not think you can care for it, tell them so and that you want to try and find someone who can.

Gale

Id rather get this guys ok, but worst case i will look into the laws. To be honest, it may be gone before i get there, there cabl got cut, as did electric and water, so the thought of money probly is blowing their minds..