Is this a Fire Ball??

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Originally Posted by simpsonke

Thanks for all the responses. I will try to put up a belly shot tonight. Don’t think this is a yellow belly but sounds like it’s not a Fire either. Purchased as a normal just noticed the head markings, blushing and coloration might be Fire. Wishful thinking.

Is it just me or are nice female Fires hared to come by?

@R&DP That is a nice fire. Where did you get that?

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Most people tend to hold onto their really nice female fires. There are just too many cool combos for them to part with them.

This is my girl. Took me a while to find on for sale I liked.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/7...UDTirQ4lWS.jpg

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Originally Posted by simpsonke

Thanks for all the responses. I will try to put up a belly shot tonight. Don’t think this is a yellow belly but sounds like it’s not a Fire either. Purchased as a normal just noticed the head markings, blushing and coloration might be Fire. Wishful thinking.

Is it just me or are nice female Fires hared to come by?

@R&DP That is a nice fire. Where did you get that?

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There are a lot of normals that have head markings. I have a proven breeder normal that has a weird head marking but she's still a normal.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_3347.jpg

Additionally, normals come in a lot of shades and patterns. For example, here is one of my normals that I think is super pretty. She's really light and has nice banding and a head marking, but she's nothing special.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_2010.jpg

I've also seen a lot of fires for sale that look more like normals to me. Fires are one of those morphs that just get better with age. My girl was bought as a male and she was still the nicest fire I saw at the show. :rolleyes:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...e/IMG_2997.jpg

It's rare to luck out and buy a normal and have it turn out to be something else, but depending on the seller you will find some hets sold as normals.

normal

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Originally Posted by simpsonke

Thanks for all the responses. I will try to put up a belly shot tonight. Don’t think this is a yellow belly but sounds like it’s not a Fire either. Purchased as a normal just noticed the head markings, blushing and coloration might be Fire. Wishful thinking.

Is it just me or are nice female Fires hared to come by?

@R&DP That is a nice fire. Where did you get that?

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I got my Fire from a local breeder, Spectrum Serpents. They don't have a website, but pm me and I can give you the phone number. :snake:

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Originally Posted by aalomon

Most people tend to hold onto their really nice female fires. There are just too many cool combos for them to part with them.

This is my girl. Took me a while to find on for sale I liked.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/7...UDTirQ4lWS.jpg

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Beautiful!

I wish my Fire looked that good!

http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/spid1.jpg

He's only 8 months old.
Hopefully he'll get better with age.

:)

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Originally Posted by ReptilesK2

Here's what my fire looks like:

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/v...9/DSC00245.jpg

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Seriously hot Fire!

How old is it?

Fire female...
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_9534.jpg

Fire male...
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_1483.jpg

I don't think the op's snake is a fire, a belly shot would confirm it.
I have never seen a real fire that didn't have the head spot and would never buy one without it.

I agree that it looks like a normal. I have a couple girls that have head spots like that.

Thanks again to all who replied. Still working on the belly shot. What are we looking for in the belly of a Fire?

I wonder with all he variation and difficulty identifying Fires from Normals, how do you know them from each other in a clutch? As a co-dom statistically only half of the clutch will be Fire. Is it easier to tell when they are first hatched?

Its hard to tell with fires, but one thing i have heard several times with fires and cinnys is half the eye ball being white. It looks like yours has that trait.