U.S. lowers it's flag.

They is a much much MUCH greater difference in the way that Saddam and his thugs lived and the way those dirt poor rags for clothes people live in Iraq, than the way U.S. Congress lives and the way we EXTREMELY WEALTHY by the world's standards Americans live.

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Sorry but anyone trying to make that argument would have no grounds to stand on. Unless they were trying to say that our Gov was crooked. Sorry but no matter how you look at it there is a big difference between living in a house in the U.S. and living in a mud hut in Iraq. Even living in the ghetto is better. The ghetto is bad only because of how it it taken care of by its inhabitants.

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Our Gov. crooked ?
No...
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You guys are aware that we do have homeless people here in America, right ?

It's not like the less fortunate, or those that fail to excel in this country are given a nice home in some "Inner City."

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Our Gov. crooked ?
No...
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You guys are aware that we do have homeless people here in America, right ?

It's not like the less fortunate, or those that fail to excel in this country are given a nice home in some "Inner City."

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But we have homeless shelters where they can go to at least be warm and be fed, plus we have food pantries and soup kitchens, Goodwill and The Salvation Army to help poor people. Many poor people are poor because of drugs or alcohol and would sooner beg for money so they can buy more drugs or alcohol than to get help or be fed. But at least our poor have that choice to go to a shelter or a soup kitchen.

Poor is not poor the world round! Ever see an emaciated homeless person in America with a distended belly because their stomach is expanding with gas from consuming itself? The poor here in America have lives that would be the absolute dream of poor and homeless from other countries! That is a Fact! Ever see gangs of homeless 3-6 yr olds huddling together so the older homeless kids can't steal from them and huffing glue or even worse fermented feces, just to dull the hunger pains? No one has seen that in America and it does exist else where!


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Originally Posted by twistedtails

I know this is probably going to bring a bunch of mixed feeling to the table, but, the war is over!

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Not really accurate. The war we have been fighting for the last 10 years is the Global War on Terror, which is certainly not over. We are still sending many troops to Afghanistan for Operation Enduring Freedom, and we also still have troops in the Horn Of Africa.

The operation in Iraq may have ended, but the war we are fighting is not over.

Whatever.
Y'all sound like you believe the U.N should seize our nations wealth, and redistribute it around the world.

If the United States of America continues on it's current path, we will be a third world country before long.

We need to address our own issues here at home, and let the rest of the world address their own issues.

G.W. got revenge for the assassination attempt on his daddy.. we can finally bring our troops home after too many years, too many dollars, and too much suffering.

Being retired Army (2006) and been to Iraq (2004) I am glad to see my fellow Soldiers coming home. Everyone seems to forget that this was a timeline that was agreed upon back before the new administration came to Washington.
My problem is the fact that our top military commanders say it isn't quite time to leave yet and there are reports that we are bringing home the troops but increasing the civilian contractors there????
HERE's one report
In the speech saying the war is over and we have fostered a great relationship with the Iraqi people, there are hundreds gathering in Fallujah burning the US Flag to celebrate us leaving.
Hundreds in Fallujah burn U.S. flag
As far as cost (money) check out This story. The "stimulus" cost more than the entire war. (Again money wise).

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I am glad to see my fellow Soldiers coming home. Everyone seems to forget that this was a timeline that was agreed upon back before the new administration came to Washington.
My problem is the fact that our top military commanders say it isn't quite time to leave yet and there are reports that we are bringing home the troops but increasing the civilian contractors there????

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I completely agree with you Jedi and have also been there & done that. Being Active Duty myself for the last 14 years, I'm really not enjoying the feeling that all of our men and women who have died in Iraq is for what amounts to almost nothing. For anyone to think that us leaving a country, we basically demolished, in disrepair is 'a responsible act' - then they are just as ignorant as the politicians who made the deal to leave without ‘finishing the job’ in the first place.

The War on Terror is far from over and take it for what it's worth, but as long as there are countries like Iran, N. Korea, and China with power to invoke terror - the War on Terror will never be over. Our former Commander in Chief clearly wasn't the brightest individual when he allowed his staff to come up with that title.

As for the monetary cost associated with Operation Iraqi Freedom, the economic growth during the initial occupation and over the last 9 years has made up for the dollar amount spent for the US to be involved. The economic hardship we're facing is due in fact to the poor leadership of our politicians and overall greed of Big Business - Banks & Wall Street included. For anyone thinking the war efforts cost the US too much money should do a little bit of research on how military campaigns actually promote industrial & economic growth.

Or this move back home could be due to the NADD act coming into law come 2012.

Many say Obama will Veto it but its 50 50 on whats going to happen.