which ball pythons should i get?

Honestly u need to learn a little more before u go and spend $3300.00......i wish i would of took my time and did some research before just going and buying....take your time and do some research..but for now go and buy your favorite morph and then take it from there...build around that....

i was thinking of a het albino instead of a normal. i will get pastels from the bumble bee. i wont be buying any snake untill the summer. still need to get the rack and everything.

I think your missing the points that have been brought up. But good luck on your project wish you well

i got the point that i need to research more. but what should i research? ive had normal ball pythons in the past that i never bred. i know i should only get a few and fill my rack slow. thats my plan im just trying to get a final list of what i want so i dont see somthing for a good price and buy it then find out 6 months later that i dont have any need for it.

Breed for the love of it.. Not for the profits that could be made... Thats my two cents.

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Originally Posted by armison89

i dont want cheap snake i want qulity low range morphs.

hows this list?

4 normal males
Bumble Bee female
Mojave female
fire female
enchi female
Lesser Platinums female
het piebald male
het piebald female
pinstripe female
albino female
vanilla female

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You don't need the normal males. If anything, it would be normal females and morph males. It's better budget wise since male morphs are cheaper than females. And female normals breed just as well as morph females. Plus you can get multiple morph males breeding to a single normal female and get multiple morphs in a single clutch. Normal males are close to pointless in breeding morphs. You're wasting money buying normal males. They have nothing to contribute. Why breed normal males to a morph female? You can be breeding her to another morph male. In BP breeding, females are slithering gold! Even breeding sized normal females are worth a lot!

So for example:

Some from your list:
4 normal males: ~$15 x 4 = $60
Lesser female: ~$350-400
Albino female: $400
Total:$810-860

Change the gender:
4 normal females: ~$20 x 4 = $80
Lesser male: ~ $250-300
Albino male: $300-350
Total: $630-730

These prices are based on my own personal dealings with hatchlings... (may be cheaper or more expensive depending on various factors such as local vs online dealings, Hatchling vs adult prices, etc etc.)
But look at the price difference. Just by looking at 3 different kinds of BPs, you can save a few hundred dollars. And w/ my example, you can breed 4 different females with 2 morph males and come up w/ half a clutch of morphs/hets. That alone is worth a lot compared to breeding normal males to morph females.

You can still get morph females too, but I just wanted to point out that normal males are useless for breeding.

And maybe instead of buying so many base morphs to fill your rack, perhaps buy a few double gene animals. That way you get multiple morphs in one snake and have extra room in your rack. Just like what you're doing w/ that bumble bee. Instead of having to make room for a pastel and spider, you can just house the bee in one tub. Perhaps look into morph hets instead of just normal hets/visual hets? For example, getting a mojave het pied/albino or something. Double gene animals cost more, but in the long run are more cost efficient. Rather than housing, feeding, cleaning 2 different animals, you can save half the time/space/money on just one animal.

Like others have suggested, do a little more research before you acquire any more snakes. It looks like you're taking a harder more expensive route. Sit down and write down your breeding plan. Don't rush into anything. Many of the people here are giving great advice. Their words are based on their own personal experiences and mistakes.

Satomi well said....

First off I have never understood why people ask this question. Get the snakes that you like the look of or that will be a means to an end for a project that you like. Also 7 males is not a good idea. I have a ton of males and half just sit around with no female to breed them to and they are another tub to clean and mouth to feed. Why dont you try getting a few females and 2 double gene males to start? It will be easier on you trust me. and your list makes no sense.

this is why im asking so i dont spend money in the wrong place. i dont have any snakes right now.

if i get 14 snakes how many males should i have? 3?

these are the snake i want to have:
Pinstripe
Spider
albino
Ghost
Piebald
Vanilla
Pastel
Mojave
Lesser Platinums
Fire
Enchi
Cinnamon

what will be the best way to get these morphs?
i want your opinions good or bad.

I would get 4 males and the rest females. Remember that some of thoes on your list are recessive and therefor wont produce a visible morph unless bred with at a minimum a het. (IE pied and albino) Now since you dont have any snakes if I was you I would get a snake or 2 and see if its something you want to do in a few years, Too many people jump in head first and relize its not what they want to do. That or they think they will become the next BHB and end up selling off everything at a major loss