Why I would NEVER do Maternal Incubation.

Trying to convince others that your way (regardless of which way you're advocating) is the only way is silly. There are advantages and disadvantages to both methods.

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

I've done both. IMO everybody should know how to do both or know about both ways, or else what are you really doing this for? Just money or to actually learn something? I'm doing it to learn something either way. IMO again, if you have $10,000 worth of babies or what not, you should have the greatest Incubator known to man and not try to make people feel :cens0r: for what they have to work with starting out(not saying that's happening). I'm just saying let people do what they want, were here to help them in there choices not try to push our beliefs on them.

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Truly spoken... to each his own... We are not here to make each other feel in anyway inferior as we all provide for these animals to the best of our capacity... and may the worst of fate come to those that cause these defenceless creatures unnecessary suffering... My name is Alvin Herbert and I am a Herpiholic :D

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Originally Posted by piedplus

To those who have experience with maternal incubation, is it less time consuming? Easier? Seems like it would be more interesting and fun!

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I think it's easier, but it's no less time consuming than artificial incubation.

Both methods when it comes to eating have about the same problems. Either they gain there weight fast or gain it slow. I've heard stories where they took the eggs and incubated them and the female wouldn't eat, when she did was after the babies hatched. When I did maternal incubation, my lesser was skinny but she ate that first time I offered. My Axanthic, when I put her eggs in the incubator she ate two days after. I think it's safe to say it all depends on the ball itself. Also your cleaning methods. It's all the same as long as they eat.

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Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest

I think it's easier, but it's no less time consuming than artificial incubation.

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Thanks for all of the great information you have supplied to this thread. While I have never tried maternal incubation myself, it is just easier for me to monitor a lot of clutches in one spot, it is very interesting to know more about an aspect of the hobby that I am ignorant of. Learning something new about a species that one works with is invaluable to their ability to understand everything their animal is doing, and possibly why they are doing it. This has been one of the best threads I have read in quite some time.

Thanks again,

I've went both routes with corns and had ups and downs on both aspects. From simple human error to emergency artificial incubation because the not so happy mommies laid and decided the eggs weren't worth the time. and 100% viable for maternal and artificial. I enjoyed the more relaxed feel of the maternal but when it came down to brass tacks I suppose more or less I couldn't sit idly by and watch the lives of the 'lings hang in the balance.... not to mention the potential hundreds of dollars for lack of better term..... lay where they may. And I plan on starting BP's this up coming season and since one of my clutches are going to be a norm dinker to a norm fem I was considering the idea my self.. But I can't see myself even considering it for my Spider clutch. I guess my mentality hasn't changed much over the years.. When it comes to down to it.. I can't see my self risking the lives of the babies that my serpents have spent all season ramping up for go to waste... or the potential income which is needed for their own well being.. And mine. And as I type this I know it seems like I am trying to avoid the fact that I am in this for the money, I'm not trying to.. I am in this for the money, yes.. But I'm also in this for my love of the animals and love of learning. I was searching for a few postings on Maternal so thanks for that one Quite Tempest. I think I'll have to continue following both posts as they progress...

And wow I just realized I went fishing in the abyss... Didn't mean to do that =\

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Originally Posted by psionic

I've went both routes with corns and had ups and downs on both aspects...

And wow I just realized I went fishing in the abyss... Didn't mean to do that =\

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I didn't think corns stayed with their eggs.

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"I want those eggs away from the mom the second they are out of her. The day she lays the snake is removed and the tub is scrubbed top to bottom. That next day she is offered food for first time. I then put her on a very heavy feeding schedule feeding multiple rats often. My number one goal is to get the weight back on her absolutely as quickly as possible so she is ready to lay an even larger clutch the next season"

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This makes me sad.
Unfortunately, this seems to be the way of thinking for the "new school" of impatient, breeders these days....

I have a small collection, nothing special, common starter morphs. I have had two clutches to date, both maternally incubated. first clutch had 5 eggs.. all but one made it.. baby died coming out of the egg. second clutch again 5 eggs all babies are healthy in fact 3 pewters and two not so normal normals. Both moms ate while coiled on the eggs. Will I continue to use this method. Yes. will I ever try the other method.. perhaps. I do not feel that doing maternal incubation is risking the lives of the babies any more than artificial incubation. each method has its own risks but the reward is the same, healthy babies, and that is something everyone wants!

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Originally Posted by John1982

I didn't think corns stayed with their eggs.

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Think you're right.