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  • 10-12-2011, 05:43 PM
    kendracandraw
    Re: New Siamese rats, and some questions
    In-Breeding in rats really isn't a big deal. As long as the line is healthy they can go something like 26+ generations before there'd be any sort of weirdness cropping up.

    As for Siamese rats they are a beige rat with brown color points. The color points are affected by temperature, the colder the rat the stronger the points. With a self the rat should be all over creme colored with dark brown on their feet, nose, base of the ears and base of their tail fading up the back. The color points only show up where the beige is. So if the rat has a hooded marking it will only have the color fade up the hood with white sides. Or if the rat has a blaze, it won't have the color point on its nose.

    Some times if you breed a Siamese to other colors, say a Siamese to a blue, the blue babies may still get color points, they'll just be darker blue points. Generally this is frowned upon, a self rat shouldn't have color fluctuations. Typically breeders won't breed for a marked Siamese line since it tends to mess up the Siamese coloring/markings.

    Himalayan and Burmese are other colors that are color points, the Himi's being white rats with brown points and the Burmese being light brown with darker brown points.

    Anyways if you're breeding feeders it doesn't really matter, if you are breeding to breed Siamese rats, mix them with black selfs to make the color stronger.
  • 10-12-2011, 05:57 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: New Siamese rats, and some questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kendracandraw View Post
    In-Breeding in rats really isn't a big deal. As long as the line is healthy they can go something like 26+ generations before there'd be any sort of weirdness cropping up.

    There is 75+ generations of inbred rats doing great, there is no magic number of generations.

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    As for Siamese rats they are a beige rat with brown color points.
    Wrong, Beige rats are black rats with the red eye gene diluting the coat to beige.
    Siamese is it's own gene and comes in red/ruby eye and pink eyes.

    Quote:

    Some times if you breed a Siamese to other colors, say a Siamese to a blue, the blue babies may still get color points, they'll just be darker blue points. Generally this is frowned upon, a self rat shouldn't have color fluctuations. Typically breeders won't breed for a marked Siamese line since it tends to mess up the Siamese coloring/markings.
    True, but for pets people LOVE blue rats with points showing.
    I've sold a ton of them.

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    Himalayan and Burmese are other colors that are color points, the Himi's being white rats with brown points and the Burmese being light brown with darker brown points.
    Himilayan is the albino and Siamese genes coming together and Burmese is agouti + Siamese and the red eye gene coming together :)

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    Anyways if you're breeding feeders it doesn't really matter, if you are breeding to breed Siamese rats, mix them with black selfs to make the color stronger.
    The best information you offered, a very good point, black rats tend to make darker points in Siamese.
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