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  • 08-19-2011, 08:29 PM
    SlytherynHiss
    I have 3 Spiders in my Collection & 2 hatchlings. The wobble is simply a part of what a Spider is. It`s a part of them and it`s kind of endearing. My male has the most pronounced wobble of the 3 adults. But, It`s only really noticeable when he is "hunting". He is an awesome eater and an awesome breeder. He throws female heavy clutches and makes baby Spiders that are (IMO) some of the best I`ve seen. So, When he launches himself out of his tub (mouth open and heading straight for me) and completely misses the rat I`m holding in tongs for him, I chuckle at him and love him even more. To answer the question about what to feed to a Spider (F/T or Live) He has eaten both and his strikes are more accurate with live prey.
  • 08-19-2011, 08:33 PM
    Mohegan
    The ethics debating on breeding spiders/bees etc is a relatively old topic as far as designer snakes go. I think the reason people "ignore" the problem is 1) it is rarely fatal and 2) selective breeding has created really weird/horrifying genetic abnormalities that make wobble look very mild.

    IMO, I believe people should be allowed to breed whatever they want as long as they understand the repercussions. Don't like the thought of people breeding animals that are potentially pretty badly handicapped? Don't buy or breed them. At the same time, people who have no problem with spiders shouldn't flaunt it in other's faces or try to argue their case to those who oppose it. Everyone has opinions and is completely entitled to them, but should be respectful of others.
  • 08-19-2011, 11:37 PM
    Swilz
    Re: When you see the spider/bee wobble how do you feel & what do you do to cope with
    I guess we all have a little God syndrome in us as breeders however it would be nice if some more moral, humane choices could be made for the animal or the animal blood lines than money signs and check books making the choices for us. But this isn't a problem with just snake breeders it's a problem will all animal keepers.
  • 08-20-2011, 07:53 PM
    oliverstwist
    Why would someone who breds a spider not be 'moral?' I own a spider and i intend on breeding him, he swerves alot of times but never is NOT happy. He always eats with vigor (4 and never even in breeding season off feed) he drinks, etc. He is my favorite snake to take places and when he is held his swerving usually stops. This does not make me 'unethical'
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