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  • 08-01-2011, 05:23 PM
    llovelace
    Re: Quick questino in regards to size/caging of for a BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AndrewGeibel View Post
    Ever have trouble getting her back in with the one big door?

    I used to, but now I keep her out for extended periods, to watch tv & chill in bed with us, so when it's time to go back, she's ready :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JasonGranger View Post
    How do you deal with feeding a snake that large? Mine is only 3 or 4 feet long right now, but she waits by the door when she starts getting hungry. She's even struck at the glass once or twice.

    When they get older, they calm down alot, she is fed f/t every 10 days, and is usually coiled in a corner when I toss it in, now my other 2 1/2 yr old female, wwoaaaa look out!
  • 08-01-2011, 09:01 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Quick questino in regards to size/caging of for a BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fataltix View Post
    Thanks evenstar! You've been so helpfull :). I was really hoping to wait at least a couple of months to get one... but it looks like I'd have to wait almost a year for a fresh clutch unless I bought a baby now! I'm looking at this little girl right now, she's about 2 months old, only 64grams awww :). She's het albino do you know if they show any specific traits in appeareance as het for albino? She looks very bright... Here is a link to her pics:

    http://www.royalconstrictordesigns.c.../albino11-044f

    Super bright tail, love it. I'd rather pay less though for a none het snake, or perhaps a hypo. Kind of looking for something in the 30-70 range, what would you recommend?

    Thanks soooo much evenstar, you're amazing :)
    fatal

    You are welcome! And it really won't hurt to wait a couple of months. Baby boas are generally available throughout the year. Boas can have LITTERS (not 'clutches' lol...) pretty much any time through the spring and summer. Pythons generally lay their clutches closer to spring time although that can vary too. And the 2011's will still be pretty dang small whether you get one now or wait 1-2 months. Do what's right for YOU and don't rush. A 2011 baby will still fit in that 25 gal tub come fall. :D

    A snake that's het for albino won't show any noticable trait. They will look just like every other normal or whatever their visible morph is. The one you picked out is a very pretty normal but if you only want a pet and have no future plans for breeding, I wouldn't spend the extra $$ on a snake that's het for something - you won't take advantage of those genes so why bother? UNLESS you just have to have that one. In that case, get her! It's ok to follow your heart and spent a little more on a snake you just love. She IS very pretty! ;)

    The babys are ALWAYS going to be brighter than the adults. The bright red in the tails will brown out as they get older. The beautiful salmon/pink of the hypos will turn more orange as adults. Someone told me, if you don't like orange, don't get a hypo! I don't like orange, but I fell in love with Peaches anyway, lol.... :P

    If you are just looking for a normal patterned BCI (common columbian boa) with no special genetics involves (ie: het for something), then you ought to be able to pick one up for $30-40 depending on location and availability.

    Normals that are het for something usually run around $100-150 or so. Hypos and/or anerys run around $150 and up depending on whether there's reduced patterns and upwards of $250 if they are het for something. $300-400 for visible albinos, and more outrageous morphs like sunglows might be $400-600 and up. Snows are going to be pushing $1000.

    And just for kicks, here is Peaches. This was taken the day I brought her home in mid-May. She is about 2xs as large now - growing like a weed, lol. She is a reduced pattern Hypo double het for ivory and ghost. Sorry it's a little out of focus, but I wanted you to see her size in comparison to my hand....

    http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/.../newboa006.jpg
  • 08-01-2011, 09:39 PM
    Fataltix
    Well I think I still want to get one soon :), but I absolutely CANNOT find any normals!!! The few I've found are from petstores/etc and are 130+!!! Do you know of any breeders right now that have some normals 2011's left or are expecting? special k was all out and so are all the other breeders I've checked :(

    Thanks,
    Fatal
  • 08-01-2011, 10:43 PM
    jason221
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fataltix View Post
    Well I think I still want to get one soon :), but I absolutely CANNOT find any normals!!! The few I've found are from petstores/etc and are 130+!!! Do you know of any breeders right now that have some normals 2011's left or are expecting? special k was all out and so are all the other breeders I've checked :(

    Thanks,
    Fatal

    Look for a reptile expo. There's one by my area in 12 days, and another in September. Depending on where you live, you should be able to find one.
  • 08-02-2011, 01:35 AM
    Fataltix
    Re: Quick questino in regards to size/caging of for a BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JasonGranger View Post
    Look for a reptile expo. There's one by my area in 12 days, and another in September. Depending on where you live, you should be able to find one.

    Soonest one within 250 miles of me is in 2 months... :(

    Cheers,
    Fatal
  • 08-02-2011, 01:39 AM
    Fataltix
    Re: Quick questino in regards to size/caging of for a BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    You are welcome! And it really won't hurt to wait a couple of months. Baby boas are generally available throughout the year. Boas can have LITTERS (not 'clutches' lol...) pretty much any time through the spring and summer. Pythons generally lay their clutches closer to spring time although that can vary too. And the 2011's will still be pretty dang small whether you get one now or wait 1-2 months. Do what's right for YOU and don't rush. A 2011 baby will still fit in that 25 gal tub come fall. :D

    A snake that's het for albino won't show any noticable trait. They will look just like every other normal or whatever their visible morph is. The one you picked out is a very pretty normal but if you only want a pet and have no future plans for breeding, I wouldn't spend the extra $$ on a snake that's het for something - you won't take advantage of those genes so why bother? UNLESS you just have to have that one. In that case, get her! It's ok to follow your heart and spent a little more on a snake you just love. She IS very pretty! ;)

    The babys are ALWAYS going to be brighter than the adults. The bright red in the tails will brown out as they get older. The beautiful salmon/pink of the hypos will turn more orange as adults. Someone told me, if you don't like orange, don't get a hypo! I don't like orange, but I fell in love with Peaches anyway, lol.... :P

    If you are just looking for a normal patterned BCI (common columbian boa) with no special genetics involves (ie: het for something), then you ought to be able to pick one up for $30-40 depending on location and availability.

    Normals that are het for something usually run around $100-150 or so. Hypos and/or anerys run around $150 and up depending on whether there's reduced patterns and upwards of $250 if they are het for something. $300-400 for visible albinos, and more outrageous morphs like sunglows might be $400-600 and up. Snows are going to be pushing $1000.

    And just for kicks, here is Peaches. This was taken the day I brought her home in mid-May. She is about 2xs as large now - growing like a weed, lol. She is a reduced pattern Hypo double het for ivory and ghost. Sorry it's a little out of focus, but I wanted you to see her size in comparison to my hand....

    http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/.../newboa006.jpg

    Sorry for double post.. but D'AWWWW!!! Peaches is adorable :), love the name too! I'm naming my girl Molly, will probably name my daughter (if I am fortunate enough to have one :)) Molly as well haha. Love the name...

    Anywho, I might have to get that femal het I was looking at if I want a snake anytime soon for a decent price. I can't find a single breeder who has or is expecting 2011 baby normals for a decent price (sub 100). Oh well, I love the girl I picked out, the blushing on her tail is gorgeous :).

    Thanks again the for the help star! You are wondeful :).

    Cheers,
    Fatal
  • 08-02-2011, 10:35 PM
    Evenstar
    If you really love that little girl, get her! But did you actually call Tim at Special K to ask him if he had any normals? He had a few at the expo where I picked up Peaches, but he doesn't usually post them on his website.

    Browsing webpages is good, but many breeders only post their higher end morphs for advertising. You might be surprised at what you'll find with a few phone calls!

    AND... I can't tell you how much FUN it was going to the expo and finding Peaches! I went there knowing I wanted a larger snake, but I left myself open to what I'd find. I looked at a lot of boas, but Peaches "spoke" to me the moment I saw her and the experience was amazing! If you wait, you might be glad.... Just a thought!

    :gj:
  • 08-03-2011, 12:44 AM
    Fataltix
    Re: Quick questino in regards to size/caging of for a BCI
    Funny you mention it because I did call them, and while they had normals sadly no females! I've got my heart set on a girl, mostly because I've never owned a female pet, but also on the off chance that I breed boas later down the line I'd love to have a fully grown momma to start off :).

    I would LOVE to get my girl at an expo, but the nearest one is like 6 hours from me and 2 months away! I'd like to wait, but it will be in the middle of classes (18 credit hours next semester :() so I'm worried that I might wait all that time, only to not be able to go! I think I'm going to buy that girl you saw, that het trait will be sweet if I ever decide to breed, het sunglow males are cheap too so... :).

    Thanks again for all your help, I've finally made a decision, mostly thanks to you!

    -Fatal
  • 01-01-2016, 04:10 AM
    carpet
    Great discussion on cage size. If designing a rack for males and female Colombian BCI, do you think the IRIS Tree Storage Box is a sure thing at 14" H x 20" W x 52" L ? Seems based on the discussions here, even a 9' female could fit.
  • 01-01-2016, 11:42 AM
    bcr229
    A 9' female boa would be cramped in an Iris VE-175 Christmas tree tub. If you build a rack using them, plan on housing males in it.
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