Tofee and Albino Compatible!

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Originally Posted by AaronP

As mentioned earlier in this thread another guy in Canada did the same thing last year and revealed it after Garrick posted his video. It isn't a matter of double hets, they are simply compatible.

I recommend everyone to look into White, Lavender & Purple Phase retics, it's basically the same thing.

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Ahh I see what you mean now I didn't notice another person had done it ( My bad ) The joys of genetics me thinks :) I wonder if they will present theirselves like toffees when older or just stay plain albino. Would be imense if the toffee colouration is a seperate gene altogether.

The best thing about this hobby is something always pops up and you can never expect anything to go smoothly :)

Soooooo.... how much are male toffee hets going for these days? :D

Just opinion here.

How many het albinos were sold as a part of a het Toffee pair? It would be easy for someone to sell a Het Toffee for $3500 and then sell you a Het Albino (worth $100) as a Het Toffee female priced at $7500, or whatever it was. You think you got a pair of Het Toffee balls for $10,000 and in reality you just got a Het Toffee and $100 Het Albino! You’d never know…

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Originally Posted by AaronP

I strongly feel that with that 3rd party coming forward that it makes it official that the two projects, though not the same, are compatible. In my eyes that's a kick square in the nuts of the Toffee/Candy Project.

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I think it's been official for quite some time.... I would assume Garrick did these pairings with 3 het albino females after he heard the "rumors" that were going around about this for quite some time now.

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Originally Posted by MarkieJ

Soooooo.... how much are male toffee hets going for these days? :D

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A lot more than females will be now....

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Originally Posted by Ace of Snakes

Just opinion here.

How many het albinos were sold as a part of a het Toffee pair? It would be easy for someone to sell a Het Toffee for $3500 and then sell you a Het Albino (worth $100) as a Het Toffee female priced at $7500, or whatever it was. You think you got a pair of Het Toffee balls for $10,000 and in reality you just got a Het Toffee and $100 Het Albino! You’d never know…

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That's when you get your hets from a breeding that was done with two het toffees or a visual and a het and not s cross breeding with the albino gene. Get documentation for them and if the offspring don't turn out to be toffees you call up the breeder and get your money back or another animal.
That's one thing about this discovery is it will dilute the toffee gene. So your hets from a clutch of het albino to het toffee or even a visual toffee you won't know what they are het for. You will get normals and hets for albino hets for toffee and double hets. Then as stated before will the visuals produced be albino or toffee and is toffee will they have the same color as a pure blood toffee or if it's albino will it change the appearance of it ect...

With compatibility mentioned like cinnamonxblack pastel, most of those are visual morphs that were mentioned. Being a recessive morph, there would be no way to tell which were het albino and which were het toffee. As someone said, this could create a bit of confusion when selling them. IMO i think it would be best to stay with het toffeexhet toffee, just so that you know what you are getting and to avoid confusion. Just my $0.02.

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Originally Posted by J.Vandegrift

I think it's been official for quite some time.... I would assume Garrick did these pairings with 3 het albino females after he heard the "rumors" that were going around about this for quite some time now.

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I guess the correct way to put it would be "Publicly Official" :). You making anymore Lavs this year John?

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Originally Posted by AaronP

I guess the correct way to put it would be "Publicly Official" :). You making anymore Lavs this year John?

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Not this year. Been kind of a crappy season for me aside from the ultramel clutch.

If a toffee to albino or a Toffee to a lavender makes adult looking toffees, then The clear winner here is the reg $300-$400 Albinos. I do believe this is so. Rumors eventually always come out to be true.