Keep Michael Vick off the cover of Madden '12

Well, i am a Browns fan, so for that i am saying HELL NO!! HILLIS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as to Vick, i have mixed emotions about him, i am a HUGE football fan, but i prefer animals over people any day.. i love animals, and i HATE WHAT VICK DID, but not him... he is an incredible football player and he deserves some positive recognition for his performance. he has had enough bad publicity and all that for what he did...

as a football fan, i think Vick has made an incredible comeback into the league and getting back into the game (only talking about on the field).

as a animal lover, still dont like what he did, but as mentioned above, he served his time, and im sure not all of you live perfect lives like we are suppose to... i know ive lied, cheated and stole before.

And since madden is a football game, i believe that it should ONLY look at the achievements made on the field, and keep personal/court stuff out of the voting...

so all and all I am still for Hillis, but i dont hate Vick for what he did. AS for the Madden curse, im not worried if Hillis get it, because lets face it... its the browns lol.. maybe it will work backwards! lol

Its over and done with and just so i can be clear, I DO NOT SUPPORT ANIMAL VIOLENCE IN ANY WAY!!

and just so i can rub it into yet another Steelers fan, GO PACKERS!!

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Originally Posted by frenchy

Wow really the guy served his time did whatever the courts wanted him to tell me you have never made a mistake in your life are people out to get you still... Now im not saying what he did was right in anyway shape or form nor do I condone what he did. Further more the cover of madden is based on you proformance not necessarily personal issues.. Madden 10 had a rapist on it but nobody cares about keeping him off the cover and in my book rape or any sex crime is worse than dog fighting so give it a rest let EA games put whomever they want on thier cover as long as the game is good

O and im a viking fan so no loyalties to the guy

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agreed except for the viking part im a cowboys fan and i personally loved it when they put McNabb on the cover so i think they definitely should put Vick on the cover

but serioulsy i know we are all animal lovers but we still kill animals everytime we feed our snakes so stop being so hypocritical we dont have dog fighting rings but we do have animals fighting for their life/hunger i know ill get yelled at about this but its the truth so deal wit it

Madden NFL `12 Michael Vick on the cover long live the Madden curse!!!!!!:banana:

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Originally Posted by SnakesNStangss22

as a football fan, i think Vick has made an incredible comeback into the league and getting back into the game (only talking about on the field).

as a animal lover, still dont like what he did, but as mentioned above, he served his time, and im sure not all of you live perfect lives like we are suppose to... i know ive lied, cheated and stole before.

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I'm not asking for him to lead a perfect life. I'm asking him not to brutally kill innocent animals...Thats not hard! Really not lying way harder. It's very easy not to throw a dog in a bath tub full of car batteries! Super easy!

2 years? thats a joke, and he didn't spend the entire time in jail either. he does 10? Okay I'll hear the forgiveness arguments. for 2? No he can get mauled by dogs and burn in hell.

I say put him on the cover cause all who been on the cover have an accident or get hurt or end up without a career so I say yes to that douche bag on the cover :)

lance

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Originally Posted by wilomn

So, in this thread we have people advocating lying and cheating to get the resluts they prefer.

Ok, got that.

Then there are some who are saying that the legal and justice systems are not right and that the people, some of them and apparently none of them on the jury that convicted him, think they should have the right to impose further penalties upon him.

Ok, got that.

Who are you guys again and why do you get this power?

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They are the voters Willy...and EA Sports gave them "this power" to VOTE!!!!!

BG will say this though. He agrees with you on many points, but he's too lazy to list them now. G night.

For those who don't know what the Madden curse is, it is believed the player on the cover will have a horrible season or be injured.

Here is the stats from the cover selections :
2010, Troy Polamalu/Larry Fitzgerald: Polamalu only played five games due to knee injuries, Steelers missed playoffs; Fitzgerald wasn’t affected much (97 receptions, 1,092 yards, 13 TD, Pro Bowl).
2009, Brett Favre: Feuded with Packers, traded to Jets, horrible down the stretch (lost 4 of last 5).
2008, Vince Young: Missed 1 game with quad injury; led Titans to first playoff appearance in four years.
2007, Shaun Alexander: Fractured foot, missed six games; fewer yards and TDs in '06 AND '07 than in '04 OR '05.
2006, Donovan McNabb: Sports hernia in first game, missed seven games; feuded with Terrell Owens all year; had been to five straight Pro Bowls, hasn't been since.
2005, Ray Lewis: Broke wrist, missed one game; first season without interception; missed 10 games next year with thigh injury.
2004, Michael Vick: Fractured fibula one day after video game was released, missed 11 games; Pro Bowl next 2 seasons; obvious issues since then.
2003, Marshall Faulk: Ankle injury, missed two games, never rushed for 1,000 yards again.
2002, Daunte Culpepper: 4-7 record before season-ending knee injury.
2001, Eddie George: Career season, but fumbled in playoffs as top-seeded Titans lost first game to Ravens.
2000, Barry Sanders: Retired one week before training camp.

Last year Brees was the cover guy. He finshed his SB followup without a loss of time injury and pretty muc had the same stats as the year before, except for interceptions. The Saints made it to the playoffs, but injuries all season really hurt them. His stats the cover year and and the year before:
G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
2009 NO 15 363 514 70.6 4388 8.5 34 75 11 9 109.6
2010 NO 16 448 658 68.1 4620 7.0 33 80 22 9 90.9


I'd say Fitzgerald and Brees pretty much proved the curse doesn't exist.

As for the Vick situation, while I am ana animal lover, I think that what he did was wrong. But it seems to me that more people get up in arms over animal violence the the violence commited against people.

I tried to find it on the internet but was unable to, but I remember years ago a mother who was from California, I believe, being killed by a cougar. It turned out the place she was jogging was where this cougar had her kittens. The cougar was killed by fish and game. Fund raisers were held for the mother, who left behind 2 kids and for the care of the kittens. I remember, of all people, Howard Stern being outraged that the kittens recieved over a million dollars and the kids got something like 100,000 or so. Something is wrong when orphaned animals can raise more then orphaned humans!

I think Vick made a HUGE mistake, but served his time. He was sentanced to 23 months. Some drunk drivers who have killed someone get less jail time then Vick got for dogfighting. The average sentance for vehicular manslaughter. which is the charge for a drunk driver when he kills someone, in the US is 1-3 years ( although some states it is more) according to this site:
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...nslaughter.htm. Something is VERY wrong in that!

Oh and I'd vote for Peyton Hillis anyway. I drafted him as an after thought on draft day last year and he ended up helping me win my Fantasy league last year!

Priorities people..

Our world is falling apart... Seriously. And we are concerned about who's on the cover of Madden '12. Awesome.

We wonder whats wrong with the world..............

If we are gonna complain about something... lets at least complain about something worth complaining about.... like the ridiculous gas prices, or grocery prices, or the bill that could end our hobby.. c'mon. Power with numbers.... to bad we wanna use our numbers to complain about video games.

I have been sitting here thinking on how to answer this post without rubbing anyone the wrong way or should I move on to the next one...................... then I thought..........SCREW IT:twisted::twisted:

I have done a lot of things that most people would not be proud of or wouldnt want to talk about. So I am by far no saint. Though I have never screwed the innocent. Does that make me better than anyone else? No.

I cannot fathom the idea of how most people idolize these idiots?
I cannot understand why they get pain millions for what they do?
They run, jump, catch, throw, and bounce a ball!!!!!!
So can a monkey, dog, cat, or most any animal.
The difference is that the animals do it to entertain themselves and have fun.
These wastes of oxygen think it makes them better than everyone else, and mightier than thou.
I could go on and on about this but all it is going to do is raise my blood pressure:gj:
Cut these deadbeats pay by 75% from the proceeds from the games and turn that money over to the school districts!! Invest that money in our future, either teachers or supplies to teach our children! Then we might not be one of the stupidest nations in the world?

My a.d.d. is kicking in so before I go off on a tangent I wanted to answer one of the questions asked:
I would save my dog or any other animal before the human.
Why? We are capable of helping ourselves, and it was probably the human that put the animal in that situation.
I do value animals more than humans because they are better than we are, they dont destroy everything they touch. The human race is the biggest cancer on this planet!

I hate Vick. I think he is a terrible person. He served his time, yes. But, do I think he's changed. NO. I think, he plays the sympathy card to get people to like him. Guess what? It's working. And yes, the man can play some football. Guess what? He's been in freaking prison. He's had nothing to do for the past two years than train. Maybe we should extend the draft to inmates. I bet we could find some really good O-lines and defensive backs. I think he's a loser, and like most people getting out should be given $5.00 and told good luck.

I'm not sitting on my soap box judging him. It's just my choice. I am allowed to choose my friends and enemy's by their moral standards. It doesn't make me less of a person. After what he did, omg, the pictures. Such horror. You really think sitting behind bars for 2 yrs made him a better person.

And no, I do not beat the rats that I feed, or starve them, or drown them. Or, turn them into killing machines. I prefer them to be fat happy food. There is a big difference in a ball python eating naturally and the way animals are treated for dog fighting. I can not believe that was even used as a reference. Are you kidding me?

I think we'll be seeing Vick in his true self again. Maybe when he retires, and doesn't have to worry about his public figure. I guess we'll see.