Question about hets.

As my post said I think that SOME people use it to take advantage of the uneducated. I have talked to breeders and know this for a fact. Some like to make it seem like these super forms with other names are different things than just the super form. I called asking questions as if I didn't know and they assumed I didn't know. They try and jack up the price because if a snake is actually het for something like albino or axanthic it is worth more money. So if I call and don't seem like I know they could sell me a "yellowbelly het ivory" for more than they could sell me a "yellowbelly" because I think there is more than one gene at work in this snake. I in no way am saying that all breeders that put these titles are taking advantage but I know that some do. That is why I said people should do their research so they don't get duped. As in any hobby there are people that are not as honest as others. I appreciate all the amazing advice and information I have gotten from lots of breeders and from this site, but I am able to see through a lot of the "scammers" lies because I have done as much research as I have.

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Originally Posted by RemysBalls

As my post said I think that SOME people use it to take advantage of the uneducated. I have talked to breeders and know this for a fact. Some like to make it seem like these super forms with other names are different things than just the super form. I called asking questions as if I didn't know and they assumed I didn't know. They try and jack up the price because if a snake is actually het for something like albino or axanthic it is worth more money. So if I call and don't seem like I know they could sell me a "yellowbelly het ivory" for more than they could sell me a "yellowbelly" because I think there is more than one gene at work in this snake. I in no way am saying that all breeders that put these titles are taking advantage but I know that some do. That is why I said people should do their research so they don't get duped. As in any hobby there are people that are not as honest as others. I appreciate all the amazing advice and information I have gotten from lots of breeders and from this site, but I am able to see through a lot of the "scammers" lies because I have done as much research as I have.

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In any business, you will have people ripping of others! This is why it is so important to do your homework before making any purchase in life! Knowledge is a great tool!

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I get annoyed because to me a super mojave shouldn't be called a BEL, come on people it has color.... therefore not Leucistic

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Why not?

Leucism is a reduction in pigmentation in animals and humans.

Super Mojo's fit this descriptor quite well...
No where does it say leucism removes 100% color/pattern :confused:

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Why not?

Leucism is a reduction in pigmentation in animals and humans.

Super Mojo's fit this descriptor quite well...
No where does it say leucism removes 100% color/pattern :confused:

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Bingo there are forms of leucism that have color and pattern, pieds, spiders, calico. So being a Lucy doesn't mean zero color or pattern over the whole animal bit rather a predictable and reproducible mutation that has areas of complete color and patter lose leaving only white.



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I think the yellow belly mentioning ivory goes back a few years when yellow belly was more expensive. Back then there where lots of imported yellow bellies and people would mention when theirs came from a known ivory producing line. Maybe some of the imports may not have turned out to be yellow belly at all. But then some of them turned out to be spectors and whirlwinds so not bad.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Why not?

Leucism is a reduction in pigmentation in animals and humans.

Super Mojo's fit this descriptor quite well...
No where does it say leucism removes 100% color/pattern :confused:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Bingo there are forms of leucism that have color and pattern, pieds, spiders, calico. So being a Lucy doesn't mean zero color or pattern over the whole animal bit rather a predictable and reproducible mutation that has areas of complete color and patter lose leaving only white.

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http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ight=leucistic

I think that what can be looked at right here is maybe the exact definition of a word doesn't really matter. Maybe lucys "technically" should be absent of all color, but that doesn't mean that they can't be labeled as this. Do all spotnoses have spots on there nose? No they don't people can name something whatever they want that is the joy of discovering something new!!!!! Making these categories just helps you be able to know what to expect from putting certain snakes together.