Seems to be a very active topic....

From what I can tell.... this is still a very hotly debated topic... LOL. I personally believe all spiders have the wobble. I agree with TessadasExotics on the statement of wobble isn't just the corkscrewing... but head tilting as well. My Spinner Blast from NERD has a slight head tilt... and I've been to NERD and seen his 4-5 gene snakes have the tilt or wobbles from having spider in them... which right there proves that the wobble never really goes away... just wanted to see what others have heard, or had experience with.

For the record, I think a better name than "wobble" would be Spider Ball Python Neurologic Syndrome. (At least, until we can localize the etiology; then it could be "Vestibular Syndrome" or "Cerebellar Hypoplasia," etc., etc.) But that's also way too nerdy. And too long. :rolleyes:

Kind of interesting that the "wobbles" can be used as a marker to indicate the presence of the spider gene when you can't tell whatall is in a super combo morph!

Though, wouldn't that not quite work if you had a "mystery wobbler" that could also have sable and champagne in the same morph?

Spider are one of the most outbred morph out there and wobble has nothing to do with it.

Spiders all wobble / spin to an extent from hardly noticeable by some to extreme train wrecks, it is variable so his the amount of spinning / wobbling in their combos.

Severe wobbler can produce hatchlings that hardly wobble and vice versa, the wobbling in one individual can increase or decrease over time as well but it is always there you just need to know what to look for.

Spiders just like some other morphs that are known for their issues are not for everyone, which is why some people not to work with specific morphs, the bottom line is to be informed and know what you are getting into prior to purchase or work with a specific animal.

I have heard that the original spider had the wobble as well; however, I've never looked into it.

I thought this animal was incredible and purchased it as soon as I saw it. The animal and photo are from Steve Roussis. It looks to me to be a paradox Spied. The body is all white and the head is approx. 1/3 spider in appearance. It also has one spider eye and one normal eye. I find it interesting that it also looks at me like a spider with the tilted head look...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p..._1sml-med1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

I have heard that the original spider had the wobble as well; however, I've never looked into it.

I thought this animal was incredible and purchased it as soon as I saw it. The animal and photo are from Steve Roussis. It looks to me to be a paradox Spied. The body is all white and the head is approx. 1/3 spider in appearance. It also has one spider eye and one normal eye. I find it interesting that it also looks at me like a spider with the tilted head look...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p..._1sml-med1.jpg

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I love that Spied! Superb purchase if you ask me.

Interestingly, all the spieds I've seen in person have been white body/patterned heads.

If I remeber right . all speids are either white body and a spider head or all white.. Seems the spider makes the peid get rid of all the body coloring!