Just wanted to see if anyone had some tips for me???

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Originally Posted by zbyers7

yea I went and checked out your site and saw you had a lot of normals. Some pretty pastels thow. But what i mean by that is I have exserted anough time and money into my projects that I no longer have a use for normals and since I got rid of star, my first normal ever, their is no point for me to own them anymore. My pastels become my normals. And dont lie thats where everyone wants to be! LOL. Dont hate!!

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oh and im not saying this to brag. Its hard to relay your meaning threw forums to me. I am only saying this because thats where I wanted my projects to be and thats where they are. Nothing against other peoples ways of doing it. And I didnt mean to critisize that girl for commenting like she did, but for god sakes she has one ball python and its a normal and she was acting like she knows more about it then I do. I had to explain to her that i am not as inexperienced as she believed me to be. LOL. BUt its those kind of people that might buy an expensive morph from me next year so you never know. Gotta give them a shout out. I remember when I got my first ball python. It was incredible. I babied her like she was a little puppy. Its a great feeling to be apart of something that only a few understand to be a passion. Hope everyone is doing well with there breeding this year!

You're making some mighty BIG assumptions here....

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Originally Posted by zbyers7

..., their is no point for me to own them anymore. My pastels become my normals. And dont lie thats where everyone wants to be! LOL. Dont hate!!

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First off, you imply that Robin's collection is somehow inferior to yours because she has normals and you don't? I know for a fact that Robin has spent years very carefully selecting each and every snake she owns and she has, in fact, one of the finest collections I know of for its size. The last thing in the world for her to be is jealous of YOU. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by zbyers7

yea but the thing is all my snakes are doing fine.I just got a little zilla thermostat so its all good. But thanks for pointing it out to me. My snakes are my pets and when you all talk like im heartless to them you are wrong.LOL. I have a relationship with all of my snakes just as well as everyone here and everyone should. Enjoy your bp's and dont worry so much about trying to lash back at someone who said they could use a little help. Thats from the most experienced to the least. sometimes you dont know who you are talking to until its to late and then you got 2 experianced herps arguing about nothing just from an assumption. I have seen it a few times here. Just be aware of it.

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And here...no one said you were heartless, and NO one is "lashing out" at anyone. If you think this is "lashing out" then I think you've quickly forgotten your experience at another site. :rolleyes: People are simply concerned about your apparent lack of desire to do what it takes to ensure your animal's safety. No one can read your mind or your intentions....only the very words you type here and nothing more.

YOU asked for help...and help was offered. It's not "expert vs. expert" in this situation and it boggles the mind that you would consider it so. But if it were, personally, I'd put Robin's expertise up against yours any day. YOU are assuming way too much....and not presenting yourself in a way that will make many friends at all. It's entirely up to you if you want to continue in this direction...but if you want real respect from those you interact with here, or at any site...then you need to tone down the rhetoric and self-congratulatory attitude.

Trust me, with your attitude here, you won't have to worry about sales from this site. Memories run long, and people will choose NOT to do business with you with your "I'm better than you" attitude.

You're asking beginner questions, but then brag about your experience level.

I saw your demise and self imploding on another forum, I would have hoped that you had learned from that and didn't repeat that behavior here. Perhaps my expectations were set too high.

[QUOTE=JLC;1460139]You're making some mighty BIG assumptions here....



First off, you imply that Robin's collection is somehow inferior to yours because she has normals and you don't? I know for a fact that Robin has spent years very carefully selecting each and every snake she owns and she has, in fact, one of the finest collections I know of for its size. The last thing in the world for her to be is jealous of YOU. :rolleyes:


maybe so, and i took there advice. I never said i wasnt going to get a therm infact i got one this morning. I also never ment to be relayed like what you took it. I think its great that she is all about quality and thats what im doing to. Like i said, its not that im bashing her or calling her inferior. I am just simply saying that thats what I wanted with my collection and thats what I did. Again, its hard for me to relay my message in a forum i guess because im new to them. More of what I was trying for is to gently explain that im not a first time herp and you can talk to me like i know a bit instead of me being a beginner. You people need to realize that if you dont give eye to eye respect then i will look down every time. Its a natural reaction. And while I might be someone who speaks his mind and never second guesses that, I never try and put anyone else down. The only reason why the other forum was a problem was because people who will not be named, talked down at me and acted in a very unprofessional manner. And I got angry. Thats it, and its niether here or thier. Cant help that out of thousands of people some will just be out of thier minds. And as far as friends go, how is it that i am friends with many huge breeders and we get along just fine? Just calm down peoples this is not a reason to panic...LOL

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Trust me, with your attitude here, you won't have to worry about sales from this site. Memories run long, and people will choose NOT to do business with you with your "I'm better than you" attitude.

You're asking beginner questions, but then brag about your experience level.

I saw your demise and self imploding on another forum, I would have hoped that you had learned from that and didn't repeat that behavior here. Perhaps my expectations were set too high.

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wo wo wo, I was not putting you down at all. You were putting me down remember. I asked a question that I didnt know. Thanks for the advice, but you miss understand. I am no better than the beginners and no worse then the vets. I am equal to everyone and I believe you must have read this all wrong. I fyou believe that I can only learn from you and you cant learn from me then you have a bad understanding. You think that you come off trying to be superior sometimes in a forum? Its hard to tell because the words are just words. Your feelings are not felt. Misrepresentation. I took your advice and I thank you. But I never ment to critisize you. Your theme of quality is what we all should be doing! Thats key! I wish you all the luck in the world!

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Originally Posted by zbyers7

and as far as friends go, how is it that i am friends with many huge breeders and we get along just fine?

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wow!!

And here...no one said you were heartless, and NO one is "lashing out" at anyone. If you think this is "lashing out" then I think you've quickly forgotten your experience at another site. :rolleyes: People are simply concerned about your apparent lack of desire to do what it takes to ensure your animal's safety. No one can read your mind or your intentions....only the very words you type here and nothing more.

YOU asked for help...and help was offered. It's not "expert vs. expert" in this situation and it boggles the mind that you would consider it so. But if it were, personally, I'd put Robin's expertise up against yours any day. YOU are assuming way too much....and not presenting yourself in a way that will make many friends at all. It's entirely up to you if you want to continue in this direction...but if you want real respect from those you interact with here, or at any site...then you need to tone down the rhetoric and self-congratulatory attitude.[/QUOTE]

Dont take what I say to much to fact. i tend to over do it sometimes but thats just me. I have fun all the time. If you new me you would think very different. I think the problem is that people have taken my words to heart to much. Again, its a forum and not a confrence call. People over at BLBC T'd me off from the get go when they said to me I had horrible spelling and I need to spell better. So I did and they started a thread about me not being able to spell and how its the public schools fault! You can not judge until you have hurd the hole story.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

wow!!

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lol yea when you see that sentence by itself it doesnt sound good... But what I ment to say is that I am friends witha lot of well known breeders and they do not take me for a fool. I think its because we talk outside of forums. I guess im just one of those people that if you cant read my body language and hear me its hard to understand how I really mean to come off?

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Originally Posted by zbyers7

I guess im just one of those people that if you cant read my body language and hear me its hard to understand how I really mean to come off?

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Maybe so.....and maybe that should be a hint that it's time to let this conversation go before the lack of body language and vocal inflections gets you into more trouble. ;)

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Originally Posted by JLC

Maybe so.....and maybe that should be a hint that it's time to let this conversation go before the lack of body language and vocal inflections gets you into more trouble. ;)

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ok im going into the time out room. LOL. Yea i hear ya but you gotta stop talking to me like i am a little kid. More trouble? Why is it not "hey cool out on this convo and you will be good." Or something relating to that. Please people, understand that I never lied about anything. I never acted like i was better than you, and I never put anyone down. But why is it ok for others to put me down? The critics out there are ruining me. Stop thinking of me of some complicative child and see that i am just talking and most of the time with a little sarcasm. Im a good peoples im not a bad guy! Im just from a different generation then you! LOL!!!:D