Battle of the Giant

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Originally Posted by Denial

Your parents never smelled its feces and urine? 17 foot python pee has an extremely strong odor to it. When mine pee I can smell it all through the house as soon as I walk in the front door.

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Oh no I grew up on a dairy farm, so there where all types of smells I grew up in Oklahoma, And as I said, My parents were very firm about our privacy. Like I said I also had a lock on the door. So that my younger brothers and sisters ( I have 5 brothers and 5 sisters, I am the middle child) couldn't get in if they wanted to. I didn't grow up in a normal house, in all practical sense of the word. It was also a very large house. With a lot of animals in it. We had 7 dogs, pigs, cats, fish, turtles, horses, of course cattle, and also 11 kids. You tell me if they would have noticed the odd smell. I lived with it in my room for years and didn't notice......LOL....... Just how things are growing up on a ranch. Did I mention all the men in my family are hunters also, so it was nothing to have some thing that had been killed sitting in a field 50 yards from the front door, coyote, fox, skunk. alot of people don't understand it b/c they grew up in the city or at least out skirts of the city. Not me grew up in the middle of no where. Nearest neighbor was 3000 acres a way. So once again, no they didn't even notice the smell.... I am not sayinmg that the animals went in the house either, but any one that has had animals, knows that there is a certain smell that comes with that animal, now add 2600 cattle, horses, dogs.etc..etc and you get the idea

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Originally Posted by Jadonh

Oh no I grew up on a dairy farm, so there where all types of smells I grew up in Oklahoma, And as I said, My parents were very firm about our privacy. Like I said I also had a lock on the door. So that my younger brothers and sisters ( I have 5 brothers and 5 sisters, I am the middle child) couldn't get in if they wanted to. I didn't grow up in a normal house, in all practical sense of the word. It was also a very large house. With a lot of animals in it. We had 7 dogs, pigs, cats, fish, turtles, horses, of course cattle, and also 11 kids. You tell me if they would have noticed the odd smell. I lived with it in my room for years and didn't notice......LOL....... Just how things are growing up on a ranch. Did I mention all the men in my family are hunters also, so it was nothing to have some thing that had been killed sitting in a field 50 yards from the front door, coyote, fox, skunk. alot of people don't understand it b/c they grew up in the city or at least out skirts of the city. Not me grew up in the middle of no where. Nearest neighbor was 3000 acres a way. So once again, no they didn't even notice the smell.... I am not sayinmg that the animals went in the house either, but any one that has had animals, knows that there is a certain smell that comes with that animal, now add 2600 cattle, horses, dogs.etc..etc and you get the idea

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All of that clears up a lot of questions. What still nags at me is how you took care of it. You said it was 17-18 foot while you were 15. You said you got it at 5 foot and traded a box of sports cards for it. That makes me think you were probably somewhere around the age of 10. 12 feet in five years seems pretty quick for a male burm, when you consider it was probably already a year old. I'm sure you could have feed it large prey items being on a farm and wouldn't have had any husbandry difficulties. I assume you most likely were good with your hands. I also wouldn't be surprised if you had found a heat source from a chicken lights, or something like that. What throws me off is a 10-15 year old taking care of a 10-18 foot burm. That is really damn impressive. Kudos to you.

wow that must of been a health hazard living in conditions were you didnt smell a 17 foot snake feces. My whole house smells when one of mine go and everyone knows a snake crapped when we walk in the door. If you couldnt smell it that must of been pretty bad

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Originally Posted by Denial

wow that must of been a health hazard living in conditions were you didnt smell a 17 foot snake feces. My whole house smells when one of mine go and everyone knows a snake crapped when we walk in the door. If you couldnt smell it that must of been pretty bad

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I think more along the lines of being desensitized. Where I live 90 planes fly over my house in an hour and I don't hear a single one (5 minutes away from the airport). I imagine that living on a farm, pee was probably not a smell you noticed.

i couldnt imagine not noticing 17 foot burm pee. But whatever works i guess

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Originally Posted by Gibber19

All of that clears up a lot of questions. What still nags at me is how you took care of it. You said it was 17-18 foot while you were 15. You said you got it at 5 foot and traded a box of sports cards for it. That makes me think you were probably somewhere around the age of 10. 12 feet in five years seems pretty quick for a male burm, when you consider it was probably already a year old. I'm sure you could have feed it large prey items being on a farm and wouldn't have had any husbandry difficulties. I assume you most likely were good with your hands. I also wouldn't be surprised if you had found a heat source from a chicken lights, or something like that. What throws me off is a 10-15 year old taking care of a 10-18 foot burm. That is really damn impressive. Kudos to you.

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Well First off Thank you. I will say that it was my first snake, minus a ribbon snake I bought at a pet store that ended up dying a few weeks after I got it. I can also honestly say that I also over fed him tremendously, I had access to rabbits galore living on a farm. So I know that he ate alot and I do not make those mistakes again and overfeed them, but i did then. Also about the smell my house was not destroyed or nasty but as i said unless you grew up on a farm with a lot of animals then its hard to explain what it is when I say you didnt notice the smell. I have three large snakes now, and don't notice a smell until I open the cages then i smell it. So once again thank you, and to the one who said I grew up in a disastor of a house, thanks to you also, just i grew up in the country on a Dairy farm does not mean I grew up in a disgusting house or enviroment. i never once said I knew what i was doing then just said i did it and what the living conditions where. I do not make those mistakes again, but i have learned, once again 3 large snakes in a collection of 40 and I still do not notice the smell, maybe you should check your food sources.

I got my first Burm when I was about 12 I guess. She was probably 14' by the time I was out of high school. I never had a problem handling her. I did however notice when she took a number 3 (that is the number one and number two at the same time, which they have a habit of doing LOL).

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Originally Posted by tomfromtheshade

I got my first Burm when I was about 12 I guess. She was probably 14' by the time I was out of high school. I never had a problem handling her. I did however notice when she took a number 3 (that is the number one and number two at the same time, which they have a habit of doing LOL).

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I'm not saying that you don't notice it, but even now with the large group of snakes I have I still don't notice it. Maybe as said before when you grow upon a farm the smell is not really noticeable. As I said I dont. Oh well to each his own

I am not an expert or have no knowledge of big snakes, physics , force etc pounds per inch.

But here is my thought.

Would it not affect the girth of the animal? If all things are similar except the girth or cirumference of the animal.....then wouldnt the smaller in circumference be able to create more fpsi in general? Of course all other things would need to be similar?

Like i said I have no general knowledge:) just a thought if the fat man with short arms and the skinny man with longer arms are the same strength....the skinny long arm could squeeze you harder?


So retic more force then burmese? keep in mind fpsi would not include weight of the animal into account.

This may not make any sense at all and not sure why I am talking about it lol:)

Troy

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Originally Posted by Kysenia

I am not an expert or have no knowledge of big snakes, physics , force etc pounds per inch.

But here is my thought.

Would it not affect the girth of the animal? If all things are similar except the girth or cirumference of the animal.....then wouldnt the smaller in circumference be able to create more fpsi in general? Of course all other things would need to be similar?

Like i said I have no general knowledge:) just a thought if the fat man with short arms and the skinny man with longer arms are the same strength....the skinny long arm could squeeze you harder?


So retic more force then burmese? keep in mind fpsi would not include weight of the animal into account.

This may not make any sense at all and not sure why I am talking about it lol:)

Troy

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I have no idea at all this sounds like something for the guys who do the robotics on those animals to see which is stronger