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  • 09-05-2010, 08:44 PM
    joe23
    Re: Possible Phantom or am I losing my mind?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by c0ldphyer View Post
    I do appreciate the helpful input guys, with all the breeding going on in balls its easy to get confused by a "looker" normal I suppose. So far one of her offspring is out of the egg and looks just like mom with some nice back pattern additions, dads reduced pattern didn't pass over one bit even though reduced pattern is a dominant trait? I'm not complaining, he's still very much Axanthic so my little ones are packing a secret weapon in their genes. I've seen many pictures of both normals and phantoms these past few days so I don't think any more will help. Whatever mom's packing in that pattern she's got she surely did give it all to her babies. I'm pretty surprised out of 9 that not 1 is reduced. If they all turn out just as nice as mom they'll definitely make for good breeders to future morphs. I wouldnt mind adding some of that patterning to my pastel :P

    as far as i know is it not clear that all reduced pattern are dominant. there is a genetic trait, but thats really the minority. the majority are NOT genetic!

    u can go check out hunters guide to the morphs. he says a bit about how a (most likely) reduced pattern (genetlc) can be determed.

    that u dont have any reduced babies in that clutch doesnt neccessary mean that ur babys carry a "secret waepon" in their genes. most likely the reduced wasnt genetic and thats why u dont got any reduced patterned babys
  • 09-05-2010, 08:59 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Possible Phantom or am I losing my mind?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joe23 View Post
    most likely the reduced wasnt genetic and thats why u dont got any reduced patterned babys

    It's even a bit more complicated than that. Patterns tend to be genetic, but they are POLYGENETIC. This means that there's more than a single allele determining pattern, and that makes specific pattern much more difficult to breed for.

    HOWEVER, people have shown that in general, if you have reduced pattern parents, you're more likely to throw reduced pattern offspring.

    Line breeding is powerful, but it requires a quality original bloodline, selective keep-backs, and a few generations to show consistent results.
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