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  • 08-12-2010, 02:47 PM
    ScubaDiver007
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    Hey there, I thought i would chime in...

    My first year breeding

    Het Ghost Female ( 1 ) x Spider Het Ghost = 9 Slugs
    Het Ghost Female ( 2 ) x Spider Het Ghost = 11 eggs - Day 54 in the cooker.

    Come on HoneyBee :)

    Scuba
  • 08-12-2010, 02:51 PM
    DmD
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    Hope the they all hatch :) Don't forget photos :gj:
  • 08-12-2010, 03:01 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    Current stats so far:

    14 total clutches
    12 hatched, 2 still incubating (both due Sept 1).
    91 hatchlings so far.
    6 slug/bad eggs so far.
    1 failed to absorb yolk (but seems fine).
    0 deformities
    0 full term dead in egg.
    0 females slugged out
    3 bred females failed to lay (one first-timer).

    I would say it's been a pretty darned good year.
  • 08-12-2010, 03:09 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jason Bowden View Post
    If anyone has experienced the short jaw babies before and has ideas, please pm me with any solutions, etc.

    I had a deformity last year, with missing eye and elongated jaw bone on one side of the face.

    I hate to say it, and it may see harsh, but I think you should repeat the exact same pairing next year.
    You need to know if it is genetic. If it is, then possibly neither parent should be bred--they could be carrying recessives for this trait. If it is just an incubation issue, you need to know that too, so you know that the parent animals are clear of gene defects.

    It might seem terrible to have to possibly put down another clutch, but the price for not doing so is that the genes that may have caused this could be spread through your collection, or other peoples' if you sell offspring from the parents--popping up again when chance pairings bring animals that carry it together.

    Whenever I get a deformity, I repeat the pairing to make sure it was developmental.
  • 08-12-2010, 05:57 PM
    GameBred
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    ^^^What he said^^^
  • 08-12-2010, 06:59 PM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    I also agree with WingedWolf.

    It's the philosophy of "don't repeat that breeding and you shouldn't see it pop up again" that has been (partially) responsible for the maintenance of a lot of crappy recessive defects in domestic animal breeds.

    (Not that I'm accusing you of doing anything wrong -- it's a logical conclusion to make, but unfortunately not necessarily the correct one if it is in fact hereditary and recessive.)
  • 08-12-2010, 07:25 PM
    sho220
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    Bred 3 females. 2 laid.

    Lesser x Butter - 4 eggs, 1.0 BEL, 1.1 Lesser/Butter 1.0 normal
    Lesser x Spider - 5 eggs, 1.0 Lesserbee, 0.2 Lessers, 0.1 Spider 0.1 normal

    Odds were right on...wish my YB would have laid...but certainly can't complain. :)
  • 08-12-2010, 07:52 PM
    AcePythons
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    My first clutch, I got 5 eggs, only one good one :( .. halfway through incubation though!
  • 08-31-2010, 05:13 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsmorphs2 View Post
    Here is our stats from this year.

    11 - parings
    5 - clutches laid
    5 - ovulations (as of today)
    13 - slugs
    4 - infertile eggs
    1 - dead embryo (day 20 or so)
    21 - good eggs
    0 - dead fully developed hatchlings

    So all in all not a great year. But I'm definitely not complaining. Our last two clutches were pretty nice.

    Seems like the season is ending pretty well. We just had a mojave and a normal ovulate. Hopping for viable clutches. They both had +/- 8 follicles.

    So out of 11 pairings we have had 7 ovys.
  • 09-01-2010, 12:52 PM
    chromeitout
    Re: Not the best breeding season...
    8 pairings (all visually copulated)
    4 clutches laid
    19 total eggs
    0 slugs
    4 fully formed dead in egg (1 normal, 2 pastels, 1 pewter)
    1 died after hatching and not absorbing yolk (super pastel)
    1 hatched and didnt absorb yolk, still alive for now (spider)
    2 weird maggot infestation discussed in another thread (normal, spider)
    8 healthy hatchlings (counting the questionable spider)

    result:
    1 cinnamon
    1 pastel
    1 spider
    5 normals
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