Starting Axanthics!

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Originally Posted by ifun.jc

Yes i sure can tell!

Ive seen a few VPI Axanthics online that are up for grabs, but most of them have browned out. I havent actually seen any that still remotely retained their grey silver colors. Is that normal, or is there a more refined strain of VPI axanthics that i should be looking at?

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My original male is now 6 years old, and has browned a bit. However, he is still distinguishable from a normal. I have 4 Axanthic girls that I have produced that are laying this year, and they are from 2-4 years old. They are still very grey, although they do develop a bit of a purple tint as they approach three years old. I can get you some pics of my older ones if you would like. I would suggest you ask whoever you get your Axanthics from for pics of their adults, as almost every baby I have seen looks great, but some of the adults do "brown" alot. The parental stock is probably the best tell tale of how the babies will look.

Hope that helps,

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Originally Posted by muddoc

My original male is now 6 years old, and has browned a bit. However, he is still distinguishable from a normal. I have 4 Axanthic girls that I have produced that are laying this year, and they are from 2-4 years old. They are still very grey, although they do develop a bit of a purple tint as they approach three years old. I can get you some pics of my older ones if you would like. I would suggest you ask whoever you get your Axanthics from for pics of their adults, as almost every baby I have seen looks great, but some of the adults do "brown" alot. The parental stock is probably the best tell tale of how the babies will look.

Hope that helps,

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Could not agree more. And, if you end up getting a het, make sure it's from a reputable breeder. Hets are too easy to squander on people. Would definitely check up on feedback at any "for sale" site.

yes please! I hope it is not too much trouble to see some pics of your beautiful animals. I know photographs dont do justice to axanthics mostly but pics are always nice =)

Yea Im kind wary of hets going for sale by random people on fauna or kingsnake, there is of course the BOI but then again who knows.

On a separate note, hijacking my own thread, how many holes would u guys drill into a 41 quartz? And still maintain enough humidity and ventilation.

Hi ive been doing some thinking, and was just wondering, and probably im missing something else in the bigger picture, but wouldnt getting Male Axanthics be better? If i had a female axanthic i can only breed her to one male. but if i have one male i can breed him to several females to spread the axanthic gene?

I see cost as a huge setback to this because female breeder morphs are so bloody expensive D: but is that the only reason why you guys strongly advocate females instead?

I think on my 41 qts I have a row of 6 wide and 5 long 1/4" holes on each side of the lid. So, 5 rows of 6-7 holes. Yes, males can breed many females, but it will take a female 2-3 yrs to reach breeding maturity. So, you want females first to get them up to breeding weight. Males are cheaper, and easier to come by. Good luck!

So you drill them into the lid and not the sides?

Can someone save me from bashing my head into the table trying to figure a punnett square combi out? lol. So if i have Axanthic X Pastel het Axanthic for example, what will i get from it. This is what i arrived at, 25% Axanthics, 25% Cinnamons het Axanthics, 25% Axanthic Cinnamons, and 25% just het Axanthics. This doesnt sound right to me and probably i did it wrongly too =(

Also a step up from that of Pastel het Axanthic X Spider het Axanthic for example? Im stuck at just labelling them for the square! Argh. My pea brain is overloading.

Yeah, I put them on the top, but most rack systems are built with no lids. Then you put them on the side. Just measure the humidity and add holes as you go. I found it easier to put a bunch in the lid. Placement really isn't that important.

I totally stink at punet squares, but I think your right. As long as you switch the cinnamon out with pastel. And it would work the same with the AX x SpAX.

That is sheer proof of the slow but steady retardation of my brain. i meant to put pastel >< thanks though!

Yes you are right on. Look here: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

And just hold ctrl to choose both Pasel and Het Axanthic for one of the parents. Sorry, it took me a little bit to figure out the control thing.

Ahhh...Yes i came across that website, but it wasnt very clear to me at first. But now since you have confirmed its integrity and accuracy i will start using it more! Pen and paper punnett squares arent much fun.