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  • 06-27-2010, 07:41 PM
    jacob985
    Re: Bp!!!!
    thats just it the rest of the world doesnt care about one small gulf. it has been all over the news around my area. it is big news here my friend.
  • 06-27-2010, 07:42 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Bp!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jacob985 View Post
    It's the fact that BP has completely destoryed the wild life for years to come. They try to catch the oil to stil make a profit instead of stoping the oil to protect the wildlife and the lively hood of my friends and family. I have 12 friends who's familys are out of a job because they can't fish to make a living. They care nothing about the people I have grown up with. They have caused dammage that will take decades to even start to recover from!

    I think you can put as much blame on President Obama as you can BP. Why hasn't he ordered them to stop the recovery and start with a full force containment program? Why is he talking about stopping all other off shore drilling, but allow BP to work things out (meaning to recover as much oil as possible, while the oil is reaching way too many beaches in Florida and who know how far this will go?)

    BP is at the root of this problem but there's a lot of blame to go around.
    Jim Smith
  • 06-27-2010, 08:29 PM
    jacob985
    Re: Bp!!!!
    its not Obamas company although yes it is his fault as well
  • 06-28-2010, 12:27 PM
    MustBeSatan
    Re: Bp!!!!
    Here's the thing, to those who would condemn BP:

    BP is a big oil company, no doubt. They are not the biggest. Or the second biggest. Or the 15th biggest.

    There are 18 oil producing companies larger than BP. Eighteen. Is everyone really so ignorant that they think BP is the only company causing economic catastrophe for financial gain? Pull your heads out of the tar sands for petes sake. BP may be a major disastor, but look at places like Nigeria. The Nigerian government estimates there were 5 oil spills PER WEEK between the late 1970s and 2001. These were small spills, of course, but if you think that doesn't add up to WAY more than what has been spilt in the BP disaster, you should think twice. Besides, that sort of continued damage is far worse than a one-off event. And there are similar stories all over the world.

    No, if you want to make a stand against an oil company destroying the environment, you need to live in a hut somewhere using only solar energy (although, fossil fuels were no doubt used to produce the power used to make your solar panels... And your hut...) and not own a car. You can't condemn BP for their actions and then drive up the street to Shell. Ask Ecuador how much good Shell is doing for the environment there.
  • 06-28-2010, 02:25 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Bp!!!!
    First off...kinda confusing title (Bp) on a ball python website...just saying.

    Anyway...You gotta look at it from both sides. Either you delay getting the oil spill cleaned up by hours if not days to let people go in the nets and search for sea turtles (stupid enough to come to the surface when it's on fire...) and let the oil spread, or you can get the spill cleaned up faster.

    Sorry to say guys, but I work for an oil and natural gas company (no, not BP) and the only way they really have a chance of stopping the oil spill is to drill the two relief well adjacent to the leak. That ( sadly) takes time and won't happen till at least August. For now, they just have to do what they can. Yeah, there are nets set up to try and prevent animals from getting into the "burn zones", and nothings perfect. It's sad, but is it really worth the delays (and extra oil leaking) to slow down BP any more? More oil will wash up on beachs, soak birds, get into the bayous and so on....

    I say, it's sad, but is the best they can do between a rock and a hard place.
  • 06-28-2010, 04:31 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Bp!!!!
    P.S.

    I really love the fact that the boat captain in the interview that's sooo worried about protecting sea life (aka sea turtles), has AT LEAST 2 mounted swordfish on the walls behind him. Why worry about turtles and not fish?
  • 06-28-2010, 07:35 PM
    jacob985
    Re: Bp!!!!
    that was a restaurant which im sure he doesn't own
  • 06-28-2010, 09:25 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Bp!!!!
    I love how folks want to blame Obama for not 'taking over' the efforts in the Gulf.

    The idea that the government could do a better job than BP is frankly ridiculous, unless you are harboring the illusion that Obama himself is going to be down there shoveling tar balls--and even then, that isn't going to make much of a difference, either.

    BP has the equipment, and the US government DOES NOT. The government can do LESS than BP....not more. Leaving this in BP's hands isn't just the smartest choice, it's the only choice.

    Obama did not create this problem--the US public has been clamoring for more domestic oil production. Look in the mirror, it's your fault, my fault, the fault of every citizen of the country. BP mislead officials as to how well they could deal with a disaster, and what the risks were. No one was able to call them on it because this simply hasn't HAPPENED before. There is no precedent. Deep water drilling like this is pretty new.

    Now we have US judges seeking to overturn Obama's ban on deepwater drilling. Is any thought given to whether the other companies doing it have enough safeguards in place to prevent a similar accident? Nope.

    This accident is the fault of the people working on that platform, installing shoddy parts, and not paying enough attention. Those people were working for BP. If higher officials in the company knew about it, then it is 100% BP's fault that the accident happened.

    It's everyone's fault that it was ABLE to happen.

    The loss of sea turtles that were already in the middle of a heavy oil slick is the least of our worries right now. But someone does need to be down there playing watchdog to prevent even minor abuses from occurring. Hint--the government is traditionally not good at that sort of thing.
  • 06-29-2010, 10:36 AM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: Bp!!!!
    Honestly, I think burning the oil is stupid anyway. There are plenty of ways to collect the oil and sparate it from the water for use. Then we wouldn't have to worry about all the sea turtles getting hurt...

    "After our government claimed that we did not need or could not obtain larger ships to skim the Gulf oil spill, a giant-capacity skimming ship has arrived in U.S. waters. Yet our government has us wondering whether it will permit the ship to join the cleanup effort.

    The problem is not simply the Jones Act; it’s also that our Environmental Protection Agency may squelch the ability to use this giant ship.

    The S. S. A-Whale is not like the mere 4,000-barrel-a-day vessels we’ve been using. Its owners say this ship, a converted oil tanker, can gather 500,000 barrels a day. By comparison, say the owners, the entire fleet our government has authorized for BP has only gathered 600,000 barrels—TOTAL—in the 70 days since the Deepwater Horizon explosion. (NOTE: 500,000 barrels equals 21-million gallons.)

    The A-Whale is the essence of an international ship—built in South Korea , modified in Portugal , owned by Taiwanese and flagged in Liberia . And that is part of the problem. Even if it stays farther offshore than the 3-mile limit of America ’s Jones Act, it still requires approval by the U.S. Coast Guard and Environmental Protection Agency before BP can hire the A-Whale and put it to work.

    The second problem is that the ship would gather spilled oil, separate the water from the oil, and discharge the water back into the ocean so its tanks could be filled with oil. Our EPA has a problem with that, because the discharge would retain a minor amount of oily residue. To EPA, any residue greater than 15 parts per million is impermissible. They elevate perfection above the need for speed."
    http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/29/giant-clean-up-ship-met-with-puny-response-from-bureaucrats/
  • 06-29-2010, 05:35 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Bp!!!!
    Often the imperfections and problems in a complex system do not become apparent until something dramatic and disastrous (like this) happens.

    Unfortunately, the bureaucratic engine is slow to react, and laws and regulations may not be changed in time to help resolve this problem.
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