I cutted the eggs earlier =S help

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Originally Posted by rabernet

How many eggs have you personally cut at Day 45?

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Day 45 i have cut 9 clutches in last 3 years. Day 50 ive cut about the same. Both being cut 5 days apart normally come out day 53-55

If I am not mistaken, the OP removed the egg from the incubator after cutting. If you did, I can just about promise that is why it died. The developing babies need the heat and humidity, take that away and the baby will die.

You need to study some more on taking care of your eggs and hatchlings, I think. This should never have been an issue, cutting early or not. If you didn't know enough to leave the baby in the incubator, you really need to learn more about this process. Period.

Gale

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

I cut that early as its what i do. And not one problem has arose from it. Thats why i do it. There is no benifit or downfall to doing it at 45.

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But why is it what you do? What made you decide that Day 45 was preferable to waiting for Day 52? You seem to be avoiding answering that question directly, but instead sort of dance around it, without any real substance as to why you've decided that Day 45 is the best business practice for Rich's Ball Pythons.

I really am trying to understand why one makes the decision to cut that early.

There must be "some" benefit for you personally, otherwise, why do it? Is it the benefit of seeing the babies a week earlier? Is it the coolness factor of being "cutting edge" and doing something others don't generally do?

Again, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or confrontational - perhaps it's my psychology degree being put to work, trying to understand why certain decisions are made.

I can tell you why I choose to cut on Day 52 - it's because I've seen drowned babies in eggs that were unable to cut their way out of the egg (not mine, but one of the big breeders), so I chose Day 52 to cut, because that's around the time that most of mine will start to pip (give or take a day or two). My decision to cut is to help prevent avoidable deaths in the egg.

Last season I made a mistake and cut a clutch at day 45, fortunately none of my snakes died, but there was many bacteria and fungi colonies growing on the eggs at the time of ''birth''. I personally think cutting that early is for sure very risky.

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Originally Posted by angllady2

You need to study some more on taking care of your eggs and hatchlings, I think. This should never have been an issue, cutting early or not. If you didn't know enough to leave the baby in the incubator, you really need to learn more about this process. Period.

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So where can I do this?

Ahh with spring comes the cutting threads.:D

I rarely ever cut and when I do it because others in the clutch have pipped. For the reasons Robin mentioned I want to make sure someone isn't trapped in an egg, which has never been the case.

Everyone does their own thing but I dont see the benefit of cutting a bacteria free sealed egg prior to the snakes use and need of it. I dont want to deal with mold or bacteria or be concerned its drying out or the fluid has turned to smelly muck. I am too busy for that stuff. I have hundreds of animals to look after (plus two jobs, family) and I am not interested in having to take care of any that havent even got out of the egg yet!
So no Edward Scissor Hands here.

I have many friends that are cutters but thats not how I roll.
To each there own.

Here's a man with a lot of experience. Just thought I would share since I read this thread earlier and I just read this...

http://snakebytes.tumblr.com/post/60.../odds-can-suck

Nobody's mentioned incubating temps...they are definitely something to consider when talking about cutting eggs...

well guess ill put in my two cents.....i am a first time breeder this year (13 laid 13 hatched, well 2 are still in the egg but soon out) and i cut on the day the first one pip which was like day 55. what you did was wrong and if you had done ANY studying at all you would have known that this was wrong, i mean why else would we build incubators that will hold heat and humity for long periods of time? so maybe next season you could browse the stickys that are all over the web site you just listed on and asked where you can get info on this, oh and for stuff that is not sticky there is a search button for us to use when we need it because im sure there is someone that already made this mistake and that are ready to help..... ask questions just like you did here. good luck with the rest of them:gj:



as for 45 day cutting i agree it seems like its a lil early to me too because if they were ready to come out they would pip thus the reason im a first pip kinda person, BUT ive only had one clutch and it was a classic x classic breeding so i already knew nothing was there, so i dont know the felling of having a high dollar snake coming, so i guess id have to be there but i would also feel bad if i killed that high dollar snake because i couldnt wait, so i guess people cut on day 45 cuz they got bux coming if the right thing is there....i guess.:confused:

I say cutting it killed it,wait till they pip then cut.anything before 50 is risky I think, but what do II know lol