SPIED (Spider X Piebald) Pic please

3 different people produced an all white snake with black eyes with a Spider Het Pied X Pied pairing in 2009.

I would guess that a normal Pied ranges in amount of white from near 0% all the way up to about 95%. Something with the Spider gene changes this percentage to 95%+ (just guessing on the numbers but something to that effect).

The only pictures I've seen of Bee Pied also were 95% white and Pastel Pied's seem to vary in white like a normal Pied so it would seem that the Spider gene is the definite factor.

The Panda Pied I saw pictures of had an all white head. That would make me guess that the amount of white on a Panda Pied can vary up to and including 100% (since the head was white).

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Originally Posted by JayCee

3 different people produced an all white snake with black eyes with a Spider Het Pied X Pied pairing in 2009.

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Who??

Neither the spider nor the pied have black eyes..the spider Pied doesn't have black eyes..I'd be interested to see pics of both the mom and the dad..There may be more at work there than we think

Yeah aren't the eyes greenish like a normal spider

The one picture I saw was from jbpythons from Germany. A thread on the topic had 2 other breeders say they got the same result from a Spider Het Pied X Pied breeding.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Who??

Neither the spider nor the pied have black eyes..the spider Pied doesn't have black eyes..I'd be interested to see pics of both the mom and the dad..There may be more at work there than we think

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I don't know about the eye color thing....

Roussis' white wedding is a pure white spider pied
Steel City Exotics also produced a pure white spider pied

Justin

So I wonder if you took a low white piebald and breed it to a spider if it would still come out almost all white.

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

So I wonder if you took a low white piebald and breed it to a spider if it would still come out almost all white.

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Yes it would.

Here the link to the german breeder http://jbpythons.de/Coconut-deutsch.htm

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

Roussis' white wedding is a pure white spider pied
Steel City Exotics also produced a pure white spider pied

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how do they know they're SPIEDS?
could they not simply be 100% white PIEDS?

have they been proven yet?

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Originally Posted by alan1

how do they know they're SPIEDS?
could they not simply be 100% white PIEDS?

have they been proven yet?

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Piebalds always have a head pattern. Well as far as I am aware of any ways. So a Spied being all white would make sense.