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  • 01-05-2011, 08:20 AM
    GPreptiles
    And I have a quick question - will it harm the eggs in any way if the temp is not consistent at all times? I'm asking because my thermostat is not proportional and the temps are between 87-90 F (It's not 88 all the time, but it's changing between 87-90). I was wondering since both 87 & 90 and between are ok for balls, but is it ok if the temp changes in that range?
  • 01-05-2011, 12:50 PM
    mpkeelee
    i always here that it is soooo important to keep very stable temps when incubating. but there is a very big difference in temps here! so if i set my incubator for say 89, and it swings from 88-90, or even 87-91, then what is the problem? is it because of the temps changing so much or will it not cause a problem?
  • 01-05-2011, 01:37 PM
    GPreptiles
    Re: Royal Incubation temperatures
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mpkeelee View Post
    i always here that it is soooo important to keep very stable temps when incubating. but there is a very big difference in temps here! so if i set my incubator for say 89, and it swings from 88-90, or even 87-91, then what is the problem? is it because of the temps changing so much or will it not cause a problem?

    Exactly - that's what I want to know too :D
  • 01-05-2011, 05:16 PM
    dr del
    Re: Royal Incubation temperatures
    Hi,

    Where do you have the thermostat probe?

    Maybe putting it somewhere else copuld result in more stable temps?


    dr del
  • 01-06-2011, 05:59 AM
    GPreptiles
    No, the problem is it's a styrofoam box incubator and because the thermostat is not proportional the temp keeps raising a bit even after the heating is off (styrofoam keeps the temps very well), and then the thermostat turns on after the temp loweres, and it drops a bit below the set temp, before heating cable is back up to temp. So it's not the probe problem ;).
    And I'm wondering if those small temp swings are harmfull for eggs?
  • 01-06-2011, 06:45 AM
    KingPythons
    Re: Royal Incubation temperatures
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GPreptiles View Post
    And I have a quick question - will it harm the eggs in any way if the temp is not consistent at all times? I'm asking because my thermostat is not proportional and the temps are between 87-90 F (It's not 88 all the time, but it's changing between 87-90). I was wondering since both 87 & 90 and between are ok for balls, but is it ok if the temp changes in that range?

    i have this problem with my rack lol
  • 01-06-2011, 06:47 AM
    KingPythons
    Re: Royal Incubation temperatures
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kellysballs View Post
    At all the different temps has anyone had a swing one way or the other with the proportion of males to females? We were pretty much half and half last year (over 11 clutches) and we incubated at 89.

    thought this was true with croc's and stuff not balls???
  • 01-06-2011, 10:30 AM
    dr del
    Re: Royal Incubation temperatures
    Hi,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GPreptiles View Post
    No, the problem is it's a styrofoam box incubator and because the thermostat is not proportional the temp keeps raising a bit even after the heating is off (styrofoam keeps the temps very well), and then the thermostat turns on after the temp loweres, and it drops a bit below the set temp, before heating cable is back up to temp. So it's not the probe problem ;).
    And I'm wondering if those small temp swings are harmfull for eggs?

    Well that's the thing - I use an incubator even more basic ( see below for the ghettobator )than that and it holds closer temps. :weirdface

    How many waterbottles do you have in it for thermal ballast?

    And you might be surprised the difference moving the probe from just sitting in the incubator to being inside the egg box itself or vica versa will make.

    But yes you really do want to avoid those kind of temp swings if you can I think.

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...03adjusted.JPG

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...07adjusted.JPG

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...01adjusted.JPG

    That is simply an insulated fish tank with a fish tank heater in the water which fills the bottom third and a shelf fixed above. It holds within one degree most of the time.

    It does mean everything is as humid as possible - which can be both a good and a bad thing. On balance I'd prefer to build a more traditional incubator but I'm having trouble finding a glass fronted fridge. :(


    dr del
  • 01-06-2011, 11:31 AM
    mpkeelee
    Re: Royal Incubation temperatures
    HAHA :rofl: ghettobater. Dr. Del, right now the incubator i plan on using will be the Accu-temp 6000. u can google it and find all types of variations. im using that cuz i dont expect many eggs and it seems really easy to use but the temp dont hold exactly at 89. only swings by 1 or 2 but the top will be 89 and the bottom may be 87.
  • 01-06-2011, 11:50 AM
    Subdriven
    I want some answers to these same questions. My incubator I built swings from 87-90 even though it is set at 88. It hits 87 for a very short time and stays at 90 for a long time. takes about 45 min or so to drop from 90 to 87 and the heat kick back on then 15 to get back to the 90.

    I also think my bottem bin is about 1-2 degrees cooler then the top one at all times. will this realy be that bad for the incubation?? I'll be with in everyones specs for incubation, but I'll have a 2-3 degree swing every hour....
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