Selling You Snake Short

It's fair to believe that snakes don't feel, because that's the way things are. When I first got into snakes, it was hard for me to accept after years of owning parrots and cats and dogs (oh my! :P), because they all get so attached to you and you to them. Believe me, once you accept the fact that your snakes are basically on "auto pilot" it becomes a whole lot easier to understand and respect their needs.

It has been proven that snakes do not have the intellectual capacity to experience emotions as we do. Their limbic system - the part of the brain that registers emotions - is very, very basic. I'm sure that they have felt fear, and more of the baser emotions that stem from instinct, but if you are implying that snakes are capable of love, joy, sorrow, or anger then you are unfortunately wrong. As much as I'm sure we'd all like our snakes to love us as our dogs do, the fact is they don't nor will they ever... unless another 80 million years of evolution decides to change that. Some people will say that one snake or another has it's own personality. They either have a really grouchy snake, a shy one, or a really calm tempered little guy, but those observations are all just differing levels of aggression, indifference, or fear - something that is instinctual, not emotional. As far as the indifference goes, the snake doesn't see you as a threat and is just putting up with you.

Actually, the more I think about it, I would rather my snakes' emotional capacity stay the way it is. I have a feeling that if bp's or any other snake acted any other way, the appeal of them would not be the same. I like the indifferent attitude they display. :) I feel like if they did display emotions as other animals do, it'd be the same as owning the reptilian version of a cat. :P

As far as souls go, I'm afraid to touch the topic. Spiritual topics tend to get very touchy, and I'd be afraid to say something that would bite me in the bottom later... :weirdface :P

I believe everything has a soul, including plants. Now, I don't treat my plants like I do my cats and snakes, but you get it.

I do believe that more animals have souls than humans do in some cases.

And the angel of the Lord came unto me,
Snatching me up from my place of slumber,
And took me on high, and higher still until we
Moved in the spaces betwixt the air itself.
And he bore me unto a vast farmland of our own midwest,
And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
One thousand, nay, a million voices full of fear.
And terror possessed me then.
And I begged,

"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots,
The cries of the carrots.
You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day
And to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
Like the tears of one millions terrified brothers
And roared,
"Hear me now,
I have seen the light,
They have a consciousness,
They have a life,
They have a soul.
Damn you!
Let the rabbits wear glasses,
Save our brothers...can I get an amen?
Can I get a hallelujah? thank you, Jesus.

Rep point for the first person who knows what this is from.

I dont believe my snake has a soul. But most of that is due to the plastic tub. Them horrible toxins have depleted his soul and is no more

Neither do humans or anything else

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

And the angel of the Lord came unto me,
Snatching me up from my place of slumber,
And took me on high, and higher still until we
Moved in the spaces betwixt the air itself.
And he bore me unto a vast farmland of our own midwest,
And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
One thousand, nay, a million voices full of fear.
And terror possessed me then.
And I begged,

"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots,
The cries of the carrots.
You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day
And to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
Like the tears of one millions terrified brothers
And roared,
"Hear me now,
I have seen the light,
They have a consciousness,
They have a life,
They have a soul.
Damn you!
Let the rabbits wear glasses,
Save our brothers...can I get an amen?
Can I get a hallelujah? thank you, Jesus.

Rep point for the first person who knows what this is from.

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I'm a fan of that band (unless they borrowed it), but had to google it so it doesn't count:P

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Originally Posted by Arsinoe

In my opinion that kind of belief is just as ignorant and destructive as those who believe snakes are evil and devils and such.

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In my opinion you have no right to judge people who don't have the same beliefs as you. You have no right to come on here and tell everyone that their beliefs are ignorant, because we KNOW that this has stemmed from your very IGNORANT posts about people who house their snakes in tubs.

Your snake ISN'T in its optimum environment. You've had bad sheds, and feeding refusals. Betcha if your snake felt better about it's enclosure you wouldn't have these problems. MY snakes on the other hand, have perfect sheds and never miss a meal. So please, just let this ridiculousness go.


AND AGAIN, it's about what works best for the individual snake, and the snake DOESN'T care about have pretty things to look at or realistic looking hides. They want a warm dark humid place to hide, fresh water, and a meal when they're hungry. None of this has anything to do with having a soul.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

And the angel of the Lord came unto me,
Snatching me up from my place of slumber,
And took me on high, and higher still until we
Moved in the spaces betwixt the air itself.
And he bore me unto a vast farmland of our own midwest,
And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
One thousand, nay, a million voices full of fear.
And terror possessed me then.
And I begged,

"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots,
The cries of the carrots.
You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day
And to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
Like the tears of one millions terrified brothers
And roared,
"Hear me now,
I have seen the light,
They have a consciousness,
They have a life,
They have a soul.
Damn you!
Let the rabbits wear glasses,
Save our brothers...can I get an amen?
Can I get a hallelujah? thank you, Jesus.

Rep point for the first person who knows what this is from.

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Didn't google it so I'm not sure I'm right, but my guess would be Tool (mostly going off of the Maynard reference...)

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Originally Posted by unspecified42

Didn't google it so I'm not sure I'm right, but my guess would be Tool (mostly going off of the Maynard reference...)

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What's the name of the song? You got the band right.......................

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

What's the name of the song? You got the band right.......................

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Ahhh. Yeah. I do listen to Tool, but not enough to know the song name.

I have been wrong all along!! Sorry! :tears::tears:

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