mimosa?

It might be disappointing like the Spied, lol.
I love that ringer, post her again! lol

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Originally Posted by David Green

Here's a champagne ringer, no pied in this girl. Please let me know when you folks get tired of me posting this one...

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p.../champagne.jpg

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just stuipdlly amazing ............... :bow:

The Spied isn`t that bad :colbert: :colbert: and I am pretty sure that the Champied will be made this year and I think the Banana Champagne....A lot of fun stuff going on with these Champagnes.

In 2007 I was way to stupid when Brock offered a male for sale during the Daytona show( I think it had breeder size also). I didn´t believe in the Champagne:mad::mad::mad:. Stupid me. So 3 years later I finally go into the Champagnes........

Champagne's rock! There is still tons to be done with them!

Brock

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Originally Posted by Soulpied

Another thing, if the most of the Champagnes are Ringers what would the Champied look like.....:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

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That combo as been done by a breeder in Italy, Champagnes are called Puma in Italy, the Puma Pied greatly resembles the Spied (Spider Piebald) he coined them the Puma Pied.
http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o...tos/covata.jpg

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o...umapiedxxx.jpg

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o...otos/teste.jpg

Ok,
So I am fairly new to ball pythons and all the genetic morphs. I was looking around today at all the different combos and came across the mimosa. I have a genetic calculator on my phone so when I see something I like I will go breed the two morphs together to see what the odds/outcome is.

Here is where I am confused. If a Champagne bred to a Ghost creates a Mimosa how come when bred together on the genetic calculator it comes up with 50% het ghosts and the other half 50% het ghosts and champagnes?

This also may be a little off topic but I also came across that when putting in the calculations of breeding an albino to a pied. The odds/outcome came out to be half 100% het albino and half 100% het pied. The reason this confuses me is because you are breeding visual morphs together and only coming out with hets? When I think of breeding an albino to a pied the odds/outcomes I think about are 1/4 albino 100% het pied 1/4 pied 100% albino and somewhere in there coming out with an albino pied.

I am not an expert as I have explained above and this is where you guys come in. I would appreciate any feed back anyone may have regarding both combos. As I stated I am new to ball python genetics and looking into combos to work with so understanding more how the genetics work would really help me. I appreciate your time and look forward to hearing what you all have to say :)

I love that one with just the splotch on its head, it looks almost like a jack-o-lantern hat

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Originally Posted by arkangel8508

Here is where I am confused. If a Champagne bred to a Ghost creates a Mimosa

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it does not, a mimosa is a ghost (hypo) champagne but that breeding does not create it.

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Originally Posted by arkangel8508

how come when bred together on the genetic calculator it comes up with 50% het ghosts and the other half 50% het ghosts and champagnes?

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recessive morphs (such as ghost pied and albino) need to be homozygous to visually show, which is basically he same thing as a super.

Male:	Champagne
Female:	Super Pastel
Percent	Fraction	Traits
50%	1/2	Pastel, Champagne
50%	1/2	Pastel
View Results Page

Male:	Champagne
Female:	Hypo
Percent	Fraction	Traits
50%	1/2	Champagne, Het Hypo
50%	1/2	Het Hypo
View Results Page

to make a visual or super, both parents at the minimum need to have one part of the gene. Only difference between the co-dom/inc-dom and recessive hets is the normals and het recessive look the same

Male:	Pastel, Champagne
Female:	Pastel
Percent	Fraction	Traits
12.5%	1/8	Champagne, Super Pastel
12.5%	1/8	Super Pastel
25%	1/4	Pastel, Champagne
25%	1/4	Pastel
12.5%	1/8	Champagne
12.5%	1/8	Normal
View Results Page

Male:	Champagne, Het Hypo
Female:	Het Hypo
Percent	Fraction	Traits
12.5%	1/8	Mimosa
12.5%	1/8	Hypo
37.5%	3/8	Champagne, 66% Possible Het Hypo
37.5%	3/8	66% Possible Het Hypo
View Results Page

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Originally Posted by arkangel8508

This also may be a little off topic but I also came across that when putting in the calculations of breeding an albino to a pied. The odds/outcome came out to be half 100% het albino and half 100% het pied. The reason this confuses me is because you are breeding visual morphs together and only coming out with hets? When I think of breeding an albino to a pied the odds/outcomes I think about are 1/4 albino 100% het pied 1/4 pied 100% albino and somewhere in there coming out with an albino pied.

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Correct odds for albino x pied would be all double hets:

Male:	Albino
Female:	Piebald
Percent	Fraction	Traits
100%	1/1	Het Albino, Het Piebald
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breeding the double hets together would result in this:

Male:	Het Albino, Het Piebald
Female:	Het Albino, Het Piebald
Percent	Fraction	Traits
6.25%	1/16	Albino, Piebald
18.75%	3/16	Albino, 66% Possible Het Piebald
18.75%	3/16	Piebald, 66% Possible Het Albino
56.25%	9/16	66% Possible Het Albino, 66% Possible Het Piebald
View Results Page