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  • 03-17-2010, 06:34 PM
    Dragoon
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    Ban the dangerous ones than who decides the dangeroug ones. they try the same things with gun bans that would only end in everything being banned. One ban starts the crack that breaks the dam than everything is gone.
  • 03-17-2010, 06:35 PM
    jayk_pix
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I am pretty sure you need to chip the larger species in florida anyway, if I remember correctly.

    I think a strict state regulation on the bigger tropical snakes in Florida would be wise, but not a country wide BAN. Bans have never solved the problems they were seeking to solve.

    I think one of the greatest examples of a ban failing is Prohibition during the 1920s in the United States, and I think some parts of Europe.

    I don't find it unreasonable to require a chip placed in animals in my, or anyone else's, care. Both of my cats are chipped, and I'm planning on getting my ball python chipped.

    I also don't think it's asking too much for people to be required to have a permit/license in order to own a snake that can get to over 9 feet long. In addition to this permit/license, I don't find it unreasonable to require a, for lack of a better term, snake safety course. ESPECIALLY for the hot ones.

    I'm all about letting people have the pets they want, as long as they can properly care for them, house them, and make sure that they and every other person is kept safe (well, as safe as possible while keeping potentially dangerous pets).
  • 03-17-2010, 06:53 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    I think we should ban PETA permanantly.....and as for HSUS lets ban them from spending all of the money ppl send them for cats and dogs on lobbying and outright lies. :salute::salute:


    There are quite a few other things I think we should ban but this is NOT in the quarrantine room...lol
  • 03-17-2010, 06:59 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    I don't think we should ban PETA. I think it may have been a good organization that has just gone too far. Good intentions, taken to the extreme.

    I don't agree with the ban on any animal. If someone can financially, physically, mentally, and emotionally care for the animal, I don't see a problem with them having one as long as they go through the correct channels like getting a permit, having their facility inspected (in the case of big cats and such), and get the animal from a reputable breeder.
  • 03-17-2010, 07:56 PM
    Arsinoe
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    First mistake there you did was Watch and listen to Animal Planet. About 99.99% they say is garbage the .01% is they get their name right.

    You mean like when they assumed that a giant python they found in the first Key of Key West...Just over the bridge...They said something to the effect it crawled all that way from South Florida to there.....I personally don't think any snake would survive a crawl that far on a busy highway. I'm sure it was a dump and run situation.

    I think if anything should be banned it should be stupid owners who buy things for the novelty of it or for macho crap.

    I don't like this micro chipping stuff. It's known, particularly in cats, to cause sarcomas. I wonder if it would do the same this a snake?

    Maybe you tatoo a number on their belly? Or would it just shed off eventually.

    Sorry for the mistake of poisonous and venomous.:oops:
  • 03-17-2010, 08:01 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arsinoe View Post
    You mean like when they assumed that a giant python they found in the first Key of Key West...Just over the bridge...They said something to the effect it crawled all that way from South Florida to there.....I personally don't think any snake would survive a crawl that far on a busy highway. I'm sure it was a dump and run situation.

    I think if anything should be banned it should be stupid owners who buy things for the novelty of it or for macho crap.

    I don't like this micro chipping stuff. It's known, particularly in cats, to cause sarcomas. I wonder if it would do the same this a snake?

    Maybe you tatoo a number on their belly? Or would it just shed off eventually.

    Sorry for the mistake of poisonous and venomous.:oops:

    I have not heard of microchipping causing any problems with reptiles.

    It is a shame that you can't ban stupidity :/
  • 03-17-2010, 08:04 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    I have 2 out of 4 of my cats chipped. I would chip all my reptiles if I could afford to do so.
  • 03-17-2010, 08:09 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    Pretty much the only way to permanently ID a snake is microchipping.

    Everyone is quite correct in that Florida we have a permitting system. It's a very good system. The main problem I see is that you get the microchip at 4 inch in girth, so if a owner gets a baby burmese for example.. it's too small the get microchipped.. so later on.. what makes them get that microchip put in?

    People continually forget.. giant pythons were not all taken down to the Everglades and released by bad owners. When you can't get a owner to take the snake down to the humane society.. why does ANYONE believe they would drive all the way down to the southern tip of Florida to release it?

    So since the feral population is supposed to have been caused by breeding/holding facilities being destroyed by hurricanes.. how exactly does a permitting system for responsible reptile owners help the Everglades?

    Still waiting for the explantion of how the snakes being owned as pets are dangerous too.
  • 03-17-2010, 11:10 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    The main question in my mind is who decides what is dangerous? I have a pair of adult albino Burmese pythons. They're proven breeders though I haven't bred them in a number of years. They're not particularly large, but they are a fairly average size and I watch what they eat quite closely to ensure that they're not overweight. (I'd guess that most of the burms I see in peoples collections are obese) And quite frankly, I'd much rather be bitten by one of them then by my neighbors black lab. Sure, it would hurt but it likely wouldn't cause as much damage or require as many stitches.

    Yes, in certain circumstances my snakes could be considered dangerous. Heck a bucket of water could be considered dangerous under certain circumstances. This is where education comes in, knowing the proper way to handle and work with the animal goes a LONG way towards mitigating any possible danger. Following just a few rules of safe handling will drop the danger to very nearly zero.

    Don't waste your time listening to a bunch of truth twisting politicians or special interest groups who are either badly misinformed or outright lying due to the millions, if not billions of $pecial intere$t$ at $take.
  • 03-17-2010, 11:14 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Dangerous Snakes-Should Sales Be Banned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arsinoe View Post
    You mean like when they assumed that a giant python they found in the first Key of Key West...Just over the bridge...They said something to the effect it crawled all that way from South Florida to there.....I personally don't think any snake would survive a crawl that far on a busy highway. I'm sure it was a dump and run situation.

    I think if anything should be banned it should be stupid owners who buy things for the novelty of it or for macho crap.

    I don't like this micro chipping stuff. It's known, particularly in cats, to cause sarcomas. I wonder if it would do the same this a snake?

    Maybe you tatoo a number on their belly? Or would it just shed off eventually.

    Sorry for the mistake of poisonous and venomous.:oops:

    As far as I know the microchipping sarcomas are extremely rare cases.

    And there haven't been any on record with reptiles, probably because not nearly as many have been chipped, but still.

    Large pythons especially are quite large and lazy. They don't like to move too much if they don't have to. So the idea of them slithering that far is ridiculous.
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