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Some pics and a question

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  • 03-16-2010, 08:24 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Some pics and a question
    Huh.. Thats weird. You can really see his color there. He does have pink on him that I can see but his base color is strangely creamy orange. It looks like he almost has eyelash markings but not quite. Its very hard to tell. I bet he is a cross. Everything else points to BCC.
  • 03-16-2010, 08:28 PM
    reptile_lover07
    Re: Some pics and a question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Here is an older photo of my female. She is not as clean as my male. She is covered in those pepper spots including on her belly. Does your boa change colors? BCC can change color depending on time of day and mood like many other locality boas. The only thing that makes me think he may be a cross is the color of the tail like darkcomesoon points out but Im giving you the benefit of the doubt. The head shots will help.

    Posted the pics. We haven't noticed him changing colors.
  • 03-16-2010, 08:29 PM
    twan
    Re: Some pics and a question
    BCI allday.:2cent:
  • 03-16-2010, 08:38 PM
    reptile_lover07
    Re: Some pics and a question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Here is an older photo of my female. She is not as clean as my male. She is covered in those pepper spots including on her belly. Does your boa change colors? BCC can change color depending on time of day and mood like many other locality boas. The only thing that makes me think he may be a cross is the color of the tail like darkcomesoon points out but Im giving you the benefit of the doubt. The head shots will help.

    It might help to mention... The other boa (his brother or sister) had an orangish tail too. More orange then mine.
  • 03-16-2010, 09:01 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Some pics and a question
    Its unusual that he has so many BCC traits but a couple things dont add up. Take a look at this thread I'm posting from another forum about scale count. The poster that states that it can be confusing because the scale counts of different boas can overlap is right on the point of crosses, but it is a proven way of identifying. In fact its sometimes the only way to tell a surinam from a guyana. Then again these two often interbreed in the wild since surinam and guyana are part of the same land mass.

    Use a good shed skin to do the count and do it a few times to be sure you have the right numbers.

    If the scale count says BCC then I say its a cross. There are 5 different BCC that I personally know of. Im sure there are more. But none of them are quite so orange in color as yours is.

    http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/boa...le-counts.html
  • 03-16-2010, 09:10 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Some pics and a question
    This may be helpful to you. A scale count sheet.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...scalecount.jpg
  • 03-16-2010, 10:10 PM
    reptile_lover07
    Re: Some pics and a question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Its unusual that he has so many BCC traits but a couple things dont add up. Take a look at this thread I'm posting from another forum about scale count. The poster that states that it can be confusing because the scale counts of different boas can overlap is right on the point of crosses, but it is a proven way of identifying. In fact its sometimes the only way to tell a surinam from a guyana. Then again these two often interbreed in the wild since surinam and guyana are part of the same land mass.

    Use a good shed skin to do the count and do it a few times to be sure you have the right numbers.

    If the scale count says BCC then I say its a cross. There are 5 different BCC that I personally know of. Im sure there are more. But none of them are quite so orange in color as yours is.

    Ok. We counted the scales 242 the first time and 240 the second time. Also, I took some pictures of his belly and tail. I'll post them in a minute.
  • 03-16-2010, 10:24 PM
    Oroborous
    Re: Some pics and a question
    He is a really nice looking BCI, most definitely. Check out Rio Bravos true red tails.
    http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/boas_trueredtails.htm
    He is a really good size to. Even male BCI can get quite large, mine's dad was a good eight feet.
  • 03-16-2010, 10:30 PM
    reptile_lover07
    Re: Some pics and a question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Huh.. Thats weird. You can really see his color there. He does have pink on him that I can see but his base color is strangely creamy orange. It looks like he almost has eyelash markings but not quite. Its very hard to tell. I bet he is a cross. Everything else points to BCC.

    He has pink/creamy orange along his belly too.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Here is an older photo of my female. She is not as clean as my male. She is covered in those pepper spots including on her belly. Does your boa change colors? BCC can change color depending on time of day and mood like many other locality boas. The only thing that makes me think he may be a cross is the color of the tail like darkcomesoon points out but Im giving you the benefit of the doubt. The head shots will help.

    His belly is spotted too.. especially towards the tail. What do you mean by changing colors exactly?

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/img_8701.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/img_8703.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/img_8704.jpg
  • 03-16-2010, 10:31 PM
    reptile_lover07
    Re: Some pics and a question
    He's actually more pink/orange on his belly then those show.
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