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  • 01-30-2010, 01:53 PM
    BallsUnlimited
    Re: How do you seperate locked snakes?
    whats fishy is youve been breeding reptiles for 30 years but you dont know that you cant separate them during a lock. :colbert:
  • 01-30-2010, 03:09 PM
    Darkice
    Re: How do you seperate locked snakes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited View Post
    whats fishy is youve been breeding reptiles for 30 years but you dont know that you cant separate them during a lock. :colbert:

    What's not fishy is that i have been breeding lizards for 30 years and only in the last 3 years got into ball pythons. I don't have this problem with lizards. they get in and get out. My pythons seem to stay locked for days at a time.
    I was putting them in the new racks i got yesterday and had to put a pair of snakes in one tub for about 10 min. when i opened the tub they were locked together. My partner who has half my snakes was going to bring my male mojave over to his house. Why does everyone care where and who i keep my snakes with?
    After asking here if it was possible to separate snakes i found out there are no tricks to you just leave them and so i did.
    What i don't like is all the speculating and flaming going on when people ask questions and its not just me. It happens all the time. Its the reason i'm leaving this forum.
    Most people on this site are really helpful but there is always that 10% that are not.
    I ask a simple question and everyone starts blaming and speculating like they know whats going on at my house.
  • 02-01-2010, 07:19 AM
    mason
    Re: How do you seperate locked snakes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Darkice View Post
    All i did was ask a simple question on a subject i didn't know. I just wanted ti know if there was a trick to seperating them. And there isn't any. I have been breeding reptiles for over 30 years so dont start flaming me. To me its just a hobby. But a hobby that pays for itself. There was no reason to flip out on me and threaten me with never buying my reptiles agin. Sorry if i offended anyone one with a simple question. hasus decristo.
    Maybe this place isn't for me then.
    Good bye.



    No one has threatened you, and can you not see what is wrong with not knowing these"simple things" BEFORE you start breeding them?

    No one can know everything before they begin but someone who has been keeping and breeding ANY kind of animal for 30 or even 3 years (reptile or otherwise) should know that during breeding things need leaving alone and not treating like objects.

    Like I said, no threats have been made, sometimes one post is enough to know you wouldn't touch any animal produced by a certain person with a barge-pole. I was just giving you my best guess that this was exactly the type of 'self inflicted gunshot wound to the foot' that you've just achieved in your first post. :gj:


    Reading any one of the fine books, caresheets and web-pages available on royal python husbandry and breeding would have answered this "simple" question for you, never mind your 30 years experience keeping and breeding reptiles!

    I have neither 'flipped out' nor 'threatened' you, just reacted as an animal lover when confronted with someone who perhaps should consider pet rocks.


    :soapbx:
  • 02-01-2010, 07:20 AM
    mason
    Re: How do you seperate locked snakes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Darkice View Post
    What's not fishy is that i have been breeding lizards for 30 years and only in the last 3 years got into ball pythons. I don't have this problem with lizards. they get in and get out. My pythons seem to stay locked for days at a time.
    I was putting them in the new racks i got yesterday and had to put a pair of snakes in one tub for about 10 min. when i opened the tub they were locked together. My partner who has half my snakes was going to bring my male mojave over to his house. Why does everyone care where and who i keep my snakes with?
    After asking here if it was possible to separate snakes i found out there are no tricks to you just leave them and so i did.
    What i don't like is all the speculating and flaming going on when people ask questions and its not just me. It happens all the time. Its the reason i'm leaving this forum.
    Most people on this site are really helpful but there is always that 10% that are not.
    I ask a simple question and everyone starts blaming and speculating like they know whats going on at my house.

    For future reference people "care" about how and where you keep your snakes because it helps them decide if you are worth buying animals off in such a competative market. Why buy off somone whose husbandry and practices makes them much more at risk from illness and disease when they can buy off someone who is know forkeeping a good clean house,producing healthy animals and having strict QT procedures.

    Believe it or not people do care where there snakes worth hundreds and thousands of dollars come from!


    People like the opportunity to dodge a bad buy, thats all.
  • 02-01-2010, 07:25 AM
    rabernet
    Re: How do you seperate locked snakes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    Does this mean we have to qt ourselves from our animals after every reptile show and all visitors that may have possibly been around other herps in their lives?

    In a sense - yes. You should come home from reptile shows and head straight for the shower and a change of clothes before you expose yourself to any of your collection.

    And of course, if you take animals to any show if you're vending, it makes good common sense to quarantine your animals just as you would any new addition when they return from the show.
  • 02-01-2010, 07:34 AM
    mason
    Re: How do you seperate locked snakes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    In a sense - yes. You should come home from reptile shows and head straight for the shower and a change of clothes before you expose yourself to any of your collection.

    And of course, if you take animals to any show if you're vending, it makes good common sense to quarantine your animals just as you would any new addition when they return from the show.


    I was about to add the same.

    I vend at UK shows and both my partner and I do the following when we get back from a show:

    Any new animals get treated for mites and checked over then go into QT away from the main collection.

    We shower and change clothes (you almost ALWAYS bring home mites when you spend all day at a show, sad but true, and I don't mean on your animals!)

    We do not do any work with our collection for the rest of that day (ie no entry to the snake room and no feeding hatchlings.

    Its far from perfect, but it's all we can do. We are home based hobbiest breeders, not blessed with two seperate facilities for QT and the main collection.

    I think it is pretty obvious the OP underestimated entirely how seriously some keepers take it.

    Couple all this with being very picky about who you buy from and what you buy from them, keeping the animals clean,well fed and watered and you protect yourself as best you can from the many bad things that can potentially harm your collection.
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