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  • 01-13-2010, 11:07 AM
    FIREball
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr.longfellow View Post
    inless it's a mojave X mojave then tha'r durty looking like an ivory.

    Nothing dirty about an Ivory, they are one of the few morphs that get better with age...almost pure white
  • 01-13-2010, 11:39 AM
    Eventide
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikevijo View Post
    I always do that, lol MOJAVE
    Will you still get the purple on the head with LxL, BxB???

    No.

    Also, Phantom x Lesser/Butter/Russo/Mocha produces a BEL as well, as far as I know. The only hitch is that Phantom x Phantom does not produce a BEL.
  • 01-13-2010, 11:46 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eventide View Post
    The only hitch is that Phantom x Phantom does not produce a BEL.

    That's not not entirely accurate.
  • 01-13-2010, 02:17 PM
    Eventide
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    That's not not entirely accurate.

    How's that? Yeah, the Super Phantom is linked to the BEL complex (otherwise, Phantom x BEL-Complex Morphs wouldn't produce BELs), but I don't think Super Phantoms are BELs....
  • 01-13-2010, 02:21 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eventide View Post
    How's that? Yeah, the Super Phantom is linked to the BEL complex (otherwise, Phantom x BEL-Complex Morphs wouldn't produce BELs), but I don't think Super Phantoms are BELs....

    I know for a fact by the breeder that did the breeding that on more than one occasion a Phantom X Phantom and produced BEL's and the "Super Phantom" in the same clutch.
  • 01-13-2010, 02:44 PM
    Eventide
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Really? Huh. I don't remember seeing that in his clutch records.... Oh, well. That's pretty interesting.
  • 01-13-2010, 02:47 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eventide View Post
    Really? Huh. I don't remember seeing that in his clutch records.... Oh, well. That's pretty interesting.

    I know its so unlike a ball python breeder to keep secret's about a project in order to boost the hype isn't it.. LOL

    And Ralph has as many classified clutches as he has public.. I think you'll see the Phantom pan out to be a very very neat project none the less..
  • 01-13-2010, 02:58 PM
    muddoc
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Just my two cents, but most of the Super Fires that I have seen (and Super Sulfurs) that have yellow patches are born that way. I don't know that I have ever heard of them developing patches as they age.
  • 01-13-2010, 04:55 PM
    Eventide
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    I know its so unlike a ball python breeder to keep secret's about a project in order to boost the hype isn't it.. LOL

    Yes, I realize he has a lot of classified clutches, and yes, I do realize many python breeders keep secrets to get people all riled up, thank you. The sarcasm was not necessary.

    Doesn't sound like he's doing very well at keeping this particular secret, though....
  • 01-13-2010, 05:00 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: y are these Black eyed Leucistics not all white?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eventide View Post
    Yes, I realize he has a lot of classified clutches, and yes, I do realize many python breeders keep secrets to get people all riled up, thank you. The sarcasm was not necessary.

    Doesn't sound like he's doing very well at keeping this particular secret, though....

    Sorry if you took it the wrong way my friend not meant to be rude..

    and the breeder I speak of isn't Ralph..there are a couple of others out there with them.. :gj:
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