What to start off with??

Hi,

You're a little off on the killerbee idea - that would only be possible if both parents were pastels.

I think these are the results (don't quote me its 3 am and I am an idiot about this at the best of times ).

pastel x pastel

25% normals
25% super pastels
50% pastels

super pastel x spider

50% pastels
50% bumblebees

The minumum pairing needed to get a killer bee is Bumblebee x pastel.

Super pastel x pastel

50% superpastel
50% pastel


dr del

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Originally Posted by bman123

i'd love the excitement of seeing the bee born from the pastel x spider.It's just what to get the pastel 1.0 or 0.1 and the same with the spider. I dont know what i'd do after having the bumblebee. Breed it to a pastel????

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It is totally fun to plan and scheme isn't it?!!?! I love doing that, and am guilty of doing it a lot. Though remember reality... it'll be 2-3 years before a hatchling will be mature enough to reproduce. And if you take that offspring and plan to breed them, it'll be another 2-3 years before those are mature enough to breed. So doing some math... it'll be 4-6 years before you'll be able to get the offspring from a second generation. So just plan stage one carefully and let the rest all fall into place. Who knows, 4-6 years from now your passions could take you in different directions. ;)

just mah $0.02 ;)

It is alot of fun planning it all out but it's a headache at the same time. I need to get 2 girls at the same time and get a male the following year. This way I can breed the male to both girls and kinda speed up the process.

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Originally Posted by bman123

I'm trying to get started without dropping alot of cash down on the snakes. If money was no problem then i'd get a male and female bumble bee but i can't drop that much at first ya know

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well here's my 2 cents, first of all it's gonna be expensive, ive only bought 3 balls and im at $2k super pastel male $550.00 bumblebee male $525.00
and a 07 breeder spider parodox female $1100.00 , im also trying to produce my own bumblebee, either it coming from my spiderXsuper pastel paring or my male bumblebeeXnormal females (3) it gets expensive especially if you want nice animals...but it's doable, if i were you i would invest in an 07 or early 08 female morph either spider or pastel or super pastel, after that a male will come by easily, i had a very hard time coming across almost breedable size female, even today i can't find a 1400+gram size female pastel.... and im willing to drop some money for one, but hey you never know, good luck with your breeding projects and just so you know, take your time....

i know it's gonna be years before I get where I want to be. I cannot afford to drop $500 down per snake. I will take my time and be cheap with it lol..

I am not gonna be making a living off this, it's just a hobby for me. I will sell the offspring that I dont want to keep for cheap so someone gets a great deal and I clear up space in the mean time..

I plan on doing this for a long time, I figure 2014 before I get where I want with super pastel pair and bumble bee pair. I will be fine with those pairs as I have alot of options with those morphs. Simple as adding a new male to the collection and making another sweet morph. I can just breed those 2 pairs and be a happy camper.

I wish I could go out and buy a pair of super pastel's and a pair of bumble bee's. That would cost over $3k tho and it's way outta my range.

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Originally Posted by bman123

female pastel's are cheap. Can you guys suggest some breeders please? There are so many out there that I haven't even scratched the surface yet.

I dont want to have alot of adults at one time, so I am trying to figure out what I need to buy. The female pastel and a male bee I will buy then go from there. I didnt realize how many options I had by starting with a pastel and a bee.

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hey man umm a good breeder to get snakes from is Jdconstriction.com !!!!! i got my lemon pastel 50% pos het axanthic for $200 at a des moines expo from the owner John Dague..

ALL! the snakes he had there were very healthy!!!! and he is a real great guy to work with! i will most def be buying more snakes from him again!! no doubt!